How many hunt using a compound bow

[threedogs]

Out of all the hunters was just wondering How many use a compound bow.
what Poundage ?
what do you hunt?
Got my eye on a 40lb-60lb number

[growler2058]

Timbo up in the territory does. As ya know im getting back into it after years away

[AB]

I don't know anything about bows but I own this...lmao

Thinking about taking to the brindys so growler can teach me...

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[MEGOMONSTER]

I don't anything about bows but I own this...lmao

Thinking about taking to the brindys so growler can teach me...

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You might get hurt or worse.

[megatexture]

I've got one but not gone hunting anything other than cane toads as of yet .

[Tank]

65lb at 28" draw, I chase goats, pigs, deer with modest success and rabbits we have heaps of the little bastards and they are by far the hardest thing out there to hit

[FNQGU]

and no doubt they would be very well tenderised when you do hit one...

[NP99]

What are the laws concerning ownership?

[growler2058]

I don't know anything about bows but I own this...lmao

Thinking about taking to the brindys so growler can teach me...

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That's a jack hammer nobby

[megatexture]

What are the laws concerning ownership?



Not sure none of them concern me lol

[growler2058]

What are the laws concerning ownership?

In SA don't be a c0ckhead basically

[NP99]

I was thinking the clowns we elected might have fees and licences......anything to control any fun we might enjoy!

[megatexture]

Out of all the hunters was just wondering How many use a compound bow.
what Poundage ?
what do you hunt?
Got my eye on a 40lb-60lb number


From another thread.


Bow: martin archerym14- speed flight
70 pound
65% holding weight

Arrows:
beman .500 fibreglass in trebark camo pattern.

Broad head: brand unknown.

I think 40 pound would be a bit on the light side , should be right maxed out though .

[oncedisturbed]

They are controlled here in WA which requires a permit to own and have restricted usage on them. I don't have 1 but would love to

[megatexture]

I think in qld x-bows are controlled but not bows

[Drewboyaus]

That's a jack hammer nobby

Glad someone pointed that out!

[Tank]

No laws about them over here yet, but all it will take is one dickhead

[Tank]

and no doubt they would be very well tenderised when you do hit one...

For rabbits I use big blunt tipped things or judo tips and they do make a mess, certainly not suitable for eating afterwards

[threedogs]

At the bottom of the listing he states usage or laws
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/160966780709?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2648

This is the bow I'm thinking of plus the rabbit tenderizers. lol
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/400580194606?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

[oncedisturbed]

At the bottom of the listing he states usage or laws
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/160966780709?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2648
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/400580194606?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
This is the bow I'm thinking of plus the rabbit tenderizers. lol

couldn't see any regs listed

[threedogs]

Its in the questions in details about item
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/180936203608?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

[oncedisturbed]

ahh had to sign in

"Are compound bows legal in Australia?
apexhunting : Yes, 100%. Compound bows are legal in all states in Australia. However, if you are going hunting, you need to check if you need council or the land-owner's permission to hunt on their land before you go. Refer to Government websites for more info"

Yup, will need to check each states regs to confirm which is legal and which isn't, what permits etc if any are required

[megatexture]

Not a bad looking bow for the price that's for sure, just make sure you test what eye is dominant as its not just a case of if your right handed get a right hand bow its your eyes that decides.

[NP99]

Not a bad looking bow for the price that's for sure, just make sure you test what eye is dominant as its not just a case of if your right handed get a right hand bow its your eyes that decides.

Same method I apply with a rifle....

[arbee]

i just got one of these for my 14 year old son whose been wanting to use a bow now for awhile, seems to be ok and it will give him a start to see if he has the patience, i use a martin set at 60lb, chase pigs, goats & deer, love it and gives me another excuse to get out bush and teach these boys of mine some bushcraft instead of playing video games.

[threedogs]

What material makes for a better arrow ,,,hunting not target.
and which is the best hunting head???

[megatexture]

There are ones that hit small but once in open up blades to do max damage but if you miss they will be disposable lol

[growler2058]

What material makes for a better arrow ,,,hunting not target.
and which is the best hunting head???

I have carbon fibre. Some people use aluminum. Weight is your friend here for successful kills (penetration)

[megatexture]

I use fiberglass tried aluminium but its too fragile



I have carbon fibre. Some people use aluminum. Weight is your friend here for successful kills (penetration)

How do you find carbon fibre?

[Timmo]

Wow more keen archers...... Yay well I hope to see some pics of every ones bow soon and what they are using as arrows, just remember if you are just learning and are tight on cash don't go to bumming a and buy some dowel as this stuff will explode in your face and it's not a nice feeling pulling dowel out of some ones arms and fingers...... I'm glad to see growler is still getting back into the scene again and three dogs happy to help out with any info I can, but I have some questions for you, what ya gonna shoot what poundage ya gonna use are you using sights or just bare bow. Will you be using a release aid, what type of arrows, have you got a target to shoot at, are you left or right eye dominate..... Just to start off with if you wanna know more let me know...... Also if you need any gear I have set up my own back yard shop and will be selling archery gear for a competitive price........

[megatexture]

These are the broad heads I've got, they are like razor blades but the replaceable blades are quite weak

[threedogs]

Thanks Mega they can be quite costly, I'll start stocking up.
Question 2 how would I know whats the correct draw for me?

[growler2058]

Thanks Mega they can be quite costly, I'll start stocking up.
Question 2 how would I know whats the correct draw for me?

I'll try to find the formula. Best bet is to go to an archery shop and get them to tell you mate

[growler2058]

I use fiberglass tried aluminium but its too fragile




How do you find carbon fibre?

No real dramas as long as you hit the target they don't like trees :) if there's any damage get rid if them they can shatter on release and imbed carbon fibre shards into your hand :(

[megatexture]

Cheers, sounds like fibreglass also lol

[threedogs]

Sounds good cant wait, bit of vermin where we fish, I even saw a doco on TV where David Eirland shoot a huge carp.

[growler2058]

Sounds good cant wait, bit of vermin where we fish, I even saw a doco on TV where David Eirland shoot a huge carp.


Be careful fishing with your bow in Vic. Pretty sure its not allowed there. It is here in SA

[growler2058]

IMO two essentials for shooting a compound bow. Trigger release and an arm guard!!
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[Winnie]

I thought you need a license for trigger release? Same thing as a crossbow.

[growler2058]

I thought you need a license for trigger release? Same thing as a crossbow.


Nope its a release aid.
No licence req in SA for a crossbow either. I can get landed at my door from the U.S. the nastiest looking crossbow for $400-$600 ready to rock

[threedogs]

Next year getting back to do things I've put off for a while, good thing my wet suit still fits.
So a bit of Diving is on the cards, and maybe some hunting up in NSW.

[threedogs]

Check out this smart rifle, also one mean cross bow in shop as well
http://www.dudeiwantthat.com/gear/weapons/the-worlds-first-smart-rifle.asp

[oncedisturbed]

Noice, trying to convince wifey to let me get a compound bow

[Avo]

Noice, trying to convince wifey to let me get a compound bow

It's easier to beg for forgiveness than ask for permission....

[growler2058]

It's easier to beg for forgiveness than ask for permission....
HAHAHAHAHAHHA
Or shop on line USA and show its near on half price for the better of all bwahahahahahaa

[megatexture]

For anyone looking at x-bows http://www.ozhuntingandbows.com.au/index.php?route=information/information&information_id=11

[growler2058]

Haven't fired mine for 6mths just had a shot from 20mtrs
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[threedogs]

Flicking through the channels on TV as you do when there was "BLokes world in a gun shop in the states.
The idiot picked up a compound bow and dry fired it ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,OUCH OUCH BIG TIME did I say OUCH'
the dudes inside fore arm was one huge blood blister, OUCH big time

[growler2058]

Went out today to a bush archery park
Fired off 200 odd arrows in 2 1/2 hrs by the end I was buggered
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About 40 meters away
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First shot hit him in the nose needless to say he would have been a very pissed off if it was real the others were somewhere close to the mark it was shooting down across a steep little gully. You'd never have a crack at a buff from that distance, 10-20m max
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This guy woulda been very dead at 20m

[threedogs]

Those laws were only for cross bows, and fair enough too.
@ Growler can I go hunting in Aus for $200??????
Meaning a $200 bow and a handful of arrows

[growler2058]

you would get an average entry level recurve for around that price TD. I wouldn't trust a compound bow for that price. A mate ha d a cheeeeeeeep old browning compound bow that snapped and smashed him in the face, the arrow landed between his feet. Was farkn funny but bloody dangerous. Don't by a cheap chinese compound, only asking for trouble

[threedogs]

HHHHhhhhmmmmm only want small to medium game,
might have to knock this idea on the head, bummer

[growler2058]

This isn't bad for an entry level recurve well placed shots will take bunnies easily and no reason foxes wouldn't drop with a critical shot http://shop.archerymart.com.au/collections/bows/products/jaguar-take-down

[oncedisturbed]

I have a reaaalllly on old composite plastic type recurve, I think I can fart an arrow better than this bow but young bloke uses it occassionally so I won't offload it.

I prefer compound personally but that not a bad looking bow there Growler. Wouldn't mind trying my hand at bow hunting

[growler2058]

I have a reaaalllly on old composite plastic type recurve, I think I can fart an arrow better than this bow but young bloke uses it occassionally so I won't offload it.

I prefer compound personally but that not a bad looking bow there Growler. Wouldn't mind trying my hand at bow hunting


We had them at high school I rekon.

Some blokes swear by and only shoot traditional, others like myself are into compound, personal preference I spose
Ive got a cool DVD called backpacking for hogs by tusker productions. Its really amazing the pigs these blokes take down with their recurves no sights nadda

[Timmo]

good shooting there growler...........


Went out today to a bush archery park
Fired off 200 odd arrows in 2 1/2 hrs by the end I was buggered
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About 40 meters away
38498
First shot hit him in the nose needless to say he would have been a very pissed off if it was real the others were somewhere close to the mark it was shooting down across a steep little gully. You'd never have a crack at a buff from that distance, 10-20m max
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This guy woulda been very dead at 20m

[Timmo]

I use both recurve and compound, bare bow on recurve and sights on compound, my old man taught me how to shoot bare bow on compound which is pretty easy with a little practice and plus if sights are out or get buggered in the field you can go back to bare bow.........

im looking at getting an Oneida Bow....had one a couple year's ago kept breaking the string but technology has caught up with the bow and are pretty good to shoot now.....well that's what I have heard



We had them at high school I rekon.

Some blokes swear by and only shoot traditional, others like myself are into compound, personal preference I spose
Ive got a cool DVD called backpacking for hogs by tusker productions. Its really amazing the pigs these blokes take down with their recurves no sights nadda

[93patrol]

when i was a teen i used to shoot bare bow compound as i thought sights just seemed weird on a bow but after going out with a mate from work who has the peep sight and the release aids that is amazing but felt alot more like firing a rifle or crossbow as you are in a way taking the human factor out of it and you end up relying on these aids to get your shot.

just my opinion

[elmo4eva]

I do I hunt with them here in stanthorpe

[growler2058]

Hey TD heres a link to Cabelas (USA) some good priced bows here mate http://www.cabelas.com/browse.cmd?categoryId=481689180&WTz_l=GlobalBanner%3Bcat477185580

[megatexture]

Postage will prob be the killer.

[growler2058]

I bought mine from the US and it wAS quite reasonable


Edit: Considering the purchase price was nearly 50% cheaper than anywhere in Australia postage was no issue :)

[Maxhead]

$69US for shipping

[growler2058]

$69US for shipping

And probably still $100-$150 cheaper than here

[megatexture]

This guy is taking it verry well lmao http://youtu.be/qn3MyxojG6M

[growler2058]

Lucky they were only field points or hed be bleeding out

[Timmo]

I do I hunt with them here in stanthorpe

Some good hunting around stanthorpe........

[growler2058]

Some good hunting around stanthorpe........

Did ya get onto some grunters mate?

[megatexture]

I just pulled the string off my bow and am giving it a service and going to get a peep sight and make a stabiliser and buy a release aid and make a target and get back into it can't wait! My bows a good 20 yrs old so needs a good service and adjusting to get it right again.

[megatexture]

I've not used this site personally but looks like it might getting out and about a bit easier you can search for properties by state also.

http://www.westernhunting.com.au

[growler2058]

Sighted in my new sight today. We'll tried wind was gusting r-l at 35kmh was blowing me around a bit
40m
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50m
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50m
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[threedogs]

Pretty hard to shoot a bear ?
I reckon you'd be slipping on your shite too much to take aim

[megatexture]

Is that at a club? I'm gonna do the dodgy I think and find some secluded areas no one will see to practice either polystyrene targets or carpet stacked and compressed .. Depends how far I need to carry it lol . Both I can get for free

[growler2058]

Nah not a club. It's a property 44acres with 3 different courses costs $10 day with your own gear

[megatexture]

Damn $10 is good, I just don't want to put up with the crap with clubs wanting you to go to club shoots and some are only open certain hrs or you can shoot at any time with prior arrangement (when it suits a supervisor)

[growler2058]

Very informal this joint. Turn up once sign the paper work agree to the rules, show the chic you can shoot then rock up whenever you want 7 days a week sign the book put your money in the slot and happy days :)

[megatexture]

If I had the space/land I'd be doing that also.

[Jonesy_sa]

I've played with compound and recurve plus crossbows. Obviously the crossbow was the easiest, all bows take practice before you can guarantee a humane hit.
Best bet if you get into it is to purchase of the USA eBay a second hand high quality unit. Postage is nothing compared with what you will save.
No issue brining them in; hardest thing is finding land/farmer that will let you hunt :-(

[megatexture]

Check out the link I posted earlier, looks like it might save a lot of time rather then asking around


http://www.westernhunting.com.au/

[BigRAWesty]

Check out the link I posted earlier, looks like it might save a lot of time rather then asking around


http://www.westernhunting.com.au/

Not many options..

[megatexture]

Mmm so it seem for you southerners, there's like 39 properties In qld over 8 page and there is 11 pages in NSW so looks like you guys luck out lol

[BigRAWesty]

That's what im liking of a bow. There quiet.
So target practice can be had at any old quarry and you won't stir up shoit.

[megatexture]

i do it in my back yard but i can only get a 25m shot in then i need to go elsewhere

[growler2058]

I can only get 10m safely into the shed as a back stop

[megatexture]

I could get more but I'd be shooting past the back door and my wife would kill me ! Or vies versa lol

[growler2058]

I could get more but I'd be shooting past the back door and my wife would kill me ! Or vies versa lol

Gotta take the good with the bad hahaha

[threedogs]

Why not jam open the back door and set your self up at the front door
and position your target at the back fence, surely 50 mtrs then lol

[BigRAWesty]

So everyone says buying from us is cheaper.. Is that still true with current dollar??

[megatexture]

I'm not sure ATM, You could alway try going to your local as they will have used bows for sale and you could pick up a bargain or ebay in a good brand ( pse Hoyt bear Mathews) the only issue with this is unless new you don't know if its been dry fired or torqued and damaged the limbs


New bow retail
http://www.brisbanearcherysupplies.com.au/bows-c373/compound-c375/hoyt-c451/hoyt-spyder-turbo-p1272/

New on ebay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/360853702760?_trksid=p2048036

[BigRAWesty]

Yea that's a fair whack outta the budget..
Don't wanna spend Huges bucks incase I don't like it..

Also I draw with right hand, so I'm after a right handed one yea??

[megatexture]

That bow is just an example of the savings just do research and find a bow you like in your budget and shop around.

It's not left hand right hand its dependant on eye dominance make a hole between your hands and look through it making eye contact with your missus and the eye she can see it the dominant eye and that will determine what side you shoot, having said that you can shoot with the wrong side (I do) you just have to close one eye but this is not eyedeal hehe

[megatexture]

I'm one of the odd ones left eye but right handed
http://youtu.be/EIm-oOZ_TcE

[threedogs]

bummer if you have a glass eye.lol
@ Mega I saw a guy on Blokes world dry fire a compound bow, other than give him the biggest bruise/blood blister on his forearm
What damage is done to the bow ? do the arms fracture or something

[growler2058]

Yup you can definitely splinter the arms

[BigRAWesty]

Yea I'm right eye for sight to, know this from doing field and game a while back.
So is the right hand or left hand draw??

[growler2058]

Left holds the bow and right draws the string for a right handed


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[BigRAWesty]

Left holds the bow and right draws the string for a right handed


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Thought so.. Cool..

[growler2058]

And yep buying from us is much cheaper, just need to check on postage to oz some mobs wont do it

[threedogs]

sort of like fishing where they say you wind with your dominate hand
if right handed and the left arm holds the rod

[BigRAWesty]

And yep buying from us is much cheaper, just need to check on postage to oz some mobs wont do it

Is that us eBay?? Or stores??
Budget is a slim 200..

[growler2058]

For $200 better off sussing out second hand from an archery shop mate, maybe a recurve

[BigRAWesty]

Well I got a bow.. Lol
Free.. Even better.

It's an Atunga.. Don't hurt me..

Right. It needs some work.
I have addressed the cable carrier, thatching which holds the cables aside of the string.
Now I need a site, bow rest, release much and some sorta device either a kisser or peep sight..

Is there much difference in the low priced stuff to the high?
Sure I expect the $100 optical sight to be wicked, but what about releases?? Is it worth forking out $100 aswell or are the cheaper ones good??

[growler2058]

Tru-fire release aid is fine
Optical sight for target pins for hunting

[BigRAWesty]

Been on the Australian bow hunters site, what mobile app do they use?? If any??

[growler2058]

Tapatalk...

[BigRAWesty]

Yea didn't show. Shall have another look at home

[megatexture]

Well I got a bow.. Lol
Free.. Even better.

It's an Atunga.. Don't hurt me..

Right. It needs some work.
I have addressed the cable carrier, thatching which holds the cables aside of the string.
Now I need a site, bow rest, release much and some sorta device either a kisser or peep sight..

Is there much difference in the low priced stuff to the high?
Sure I expect the $100 optical sight to be wicked, but what about releases?? Is it worth forking out $100 aswell or are the cheaper ones good??

Whack up a pic. How many pound? Or what model ?

[BigRAWesty]

Atunga,
65lbs draw weight
30" draw
58" string length

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He has 3 aluminium arrows, 1's farked..

Sights crap

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Came with a arrow carrier but it blocks a lot of view so will probably leave it off..

I am concerned however about the cable keeper I made, think I've made it to wide..

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Is that a good offset for the cables from the strings?? Or to much??

[growler2058]

This is how mine sits

[BigRAWesty]

As I thought to much..

[threedogs]

so Growlers is about 19-25mm say,
must pull me finger out and get me one.
We have OD now for any quality leather work his stuff is A grade for sure

[BigRAWesty]

Yea I'm about 15mm to far..

[megatexture]

Yea you don't want to torque the strings and have a dry fire as a result. Can you bend it up so it doubles as a string stopper also with a rubber end on it

[Family4x4]

I only use rifles. However I have seen the aftermath of a mate stand hunting in a tree above a big mob of goats with his bow. Some of the most efficient culling I have seen, they had no idea.

[threedogs]

I only use rifles. However I have seen the aftermath of a mate stand hunting in a tree above a big mob of goats with his bow. Some of the most efficient culling I have seen, they had no idea.
would never know what hit them lol at the end just a big pile of goats ha ha

[BigRAWesty]

Yea you don't want to torque the strings and have a dry fire as a result. Can you bend it up so it doubles as a string stopper also with a rubber end on it

Ummmmm??? String stopper??

Also would it still operate with the keeper running up and down a bit

[BigRAWesty]

That's ok, google'd it

Also any of you guys have setup gear?

Need a string square, a couple of knocking points the don't want??

Looking at one of the kits
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-UPGRADE-KIT-COMPOUND-BOW-STABILIZER-FIBRE-OPTIC-SIGHT-ARROW-REST-ARCHERY-/161018636458

[megatexture]

No worries .. Just bend it out for the string guide then back in to where the nocking string is with a soft rubber end on the rod and you will also need to put some serving on your string where it comes in contact with the string stop/suppressor. Makes a big difference to the sound of the bow .

Plenty of vids on youtube about bowstring serving also and a real heavy braided fishing line will work also.

Like this one but.. . It just depends on the bow also as when you draw back the 2 strings that are guided will move back and may go past the point of where your nocking string sits undrawn in this case you can make one that comes off the stabilizer hole. This is whAt I've had to do

[growler2058]

That's ok, google'd it

Also any of you guys have setup gear?

Need a string square, a couple of knocking points the don't want??

Looking at one of the kits
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-UPGRADE-KIT-COMPOUND-BOW-STABILIZER-FIBRE-OPTIC-SIGHT-ARROW-REST-ARCHERY-/161018636458 (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/705-53470-19255-0/1?campid=5336709507&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com.au%2Fitm%2FNEW-UPGRADE-KIT-COMPOUND-BOW-STABILIZER-FIBRE-OPTIC-SIGHT-ARROW-REST-ARCHERY-%2F161018636458)

If youre gunna use a release aid you will use your "D" loop instead of a nocking point

[BigRAWesty]

Sweet.
I'll see how it all goes with the stopper

Also have read to run points aswell as string, seems weird to me also..
I'll just run the release string

[megatexture]

You should have a nocking point set on the bow already? If you do just tie the loop there, even with a string square you will still make minor adjustments anyway.
I think yours is twin cam bow but if its a single a square will be no real help anyway.

There are heaps of vids on setting up your bow on youtube and some are very good make sure you check them out.



You can also make a sling and a stabiliser very easily also.

[BigRAWesty]

Nope, this bow is bare..

Dunno what the previous owner did but there is nothing..
No wonder he couldn't get a good shot in

[megatexture]

Looking at one of the kits
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-UPGRADE-KIT-COMPOUND-BOW-STABILIZER-FIBRE-OPTIC-SIGHT-ARROW-REST-ARCHERY-/161018636458

Just make sure the bolt holes will line up with yours, it may just be made to fit apex bows

[BigRAWesty]

Just make sure the bolt holes will line up with yours, it may just be made to fit apex bows

Yea lines up with my mounts

[threedogs]

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-REX-CAMO-RIGHT-Handed-55lbs-Compound-Bow-Target-Arrows-HUNTING-/360937763211?pt=AU_Archery&hash=item540991318b

OK guys is this ok for a starter

[BigRAWesty]

No idea lol..
As mentioned before pop into a shop to confirm draw length..

I like this...
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Archery-Hunting-3d-Target-Compound-Bow-Ultra-Nok-2-Nocking-Release-Aid-D-Loop-/261475709068

[Maxhead]

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-REX-CAMO-RIGHT-Handed-55lbs-Compound-Bow-Target-Arrows-HUNTING-/360937763211?pt=AU_Archery&hash=item540991318b (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/705-53470-19255-0/1?campid=5336709507&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Frover.ebay.com%2Frover%2F1%2F705-53470-19255-0%2F1%3Fcampid%3D5336709507%26amp%3Btoolid%3D10001 %26amp%3Bmpre%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.ebay.com.au %252Fitm%252FNEW-REX-CAMO-RIGHT-Handed-55lbs-Compound-Bow-Target-Arrows-HUNTING-%252F360937763211%253Fpt%253DAU_Archery%2526amp%25 3Bhash%253Ditem540991318b)

OK guys is this ok for a starter

Depends what you mean for a starter? A kid or an adult.
To give you an idea my 9yr old is using a bow which is similar to that size.

Also steer away from Chinese crap, you better off getting a second hand well known brand.
Hoyt
Bear
Bowtech
PSE

thats just a few decent names

Also, measure the distance between the tips of your fingers with arms out(like spread eagle.Lol) then divide that by 2.5 and it will give you an approx draw length

[growler2058]

With nisspissd on that
Ive heard some horror stories on those chinese brands

[BigRAWesty]

So your all expecting mine to end badly... ;-)

[growler2058]

So your all expecting mine to end badly... ;-)

Post the pics up if youre able to when it does :)

[Maxhead]

So your all expecting mine to end badly... ;-)


Not if you wear the right gear mate...no problems
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[jasonm]

Hoyt the only way to go! 70 pound!

[megatexture]

So your all expecting mine to end badly... ;-)

Get some carbon arrows not rated for you bow or shoot a damaged one and you will be in a world of Hurt.

Google carbon arrow fail look at the first 4 photos and I think first vid on youtube lol.

[BigRAWesty]

Could imagine...
Fark I wanna put some down a range...

So what's people's thoughts on the metal d for mech release??

[megatexture]

I’d just get a string d loop and you can carry some spare in your case, The screw on ones can’t be good for the string imo and I don’t like self aligning peeps either the rubber perishes

[Maxhead]

So what's people's thoughts on the metal d for mech release??

Never seen one before so not sure but I don't know how it eliminates string wear as the nock still goes over the string....so hmmmm

[growler2058]

I like my self aligning peep
Have had no end of hassles with tied in types like the G5 meta peep perfect one day very next day out by 90deg shits me to tears

[Maxhead]

This is a bargain for someone looking

Hoyt Katera #60-70 SA
I have my Hoyt Katera for sale
#60-70
28inch draw
whisker biscuit
tru glo 5 pin sight
hoyt quiver
hoyt stab
sling
6easton powerflights
usual wear around grip.

$350
Available in SA


http://www.bowhunting-forum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14665&d=1400919677&thumb=1 (http://www.bowhunting-forum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14665&d=1400919677)


http://www.bowhunting-forum.com/showthread.php?16614-Hoyt-Katera-60-70-SA

[BigRAWesty]

Nice buy..

Um the metal one clamps on, but yea your still clipping on and off the nock.

It's keeps string straight so a standard peep can be used,

To much stuff... Brain overload...

[megatexture]

I like my self aligning peep
Have had no end of hassles with tied in types like the G5 meta peep perfect one day very next day out by 90deg shits me to tears

Yea I don't like 2way split peeps either, mines 3way and even if the string is in the way it doesn't obstruct your view as your eye dosent focus on it

[BigRAWesty]

Yea I don't like 2way split peeps either, mines 3way and even if the string is in the way it doesn't obstruct your view as your eye dosent focus on it

Can ya's show us what ya mean??

[Maxhead]

Can ya's show us what ya mean??

It'd be something similar to this Westy http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Pro-Hunter-Archery-String-Tri-Slot-Peep-Sight-for-Compound-and-Recurve-Bows-/181397332964?pt=AU_Archery&var&hash=item2a3c1fa3e4&_uhb=1

[Maxhead]

My preferred weapon of choice:)

2013 Hoyt Carbon Element Bow, 29 Inch, 60 Pound, Hoyt 2 Piece Quiver, Fuse Sight, Fuse Stabilizer, Hoyt Drop Away Arrow Rest,

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[threedogs]

Depends what you mean for a starter? A kid or an adult.
To give you an idea my 9yr old is using a bow which is similar to that size.

Also steer away from Chinese crap, you better off getting a second hand well known brand.
Hoyt
Bear
Bowtech
PSE

thats just a few decent names

Also, measure the distance between the tips of your fingers with arms out(like spread eagle.Lol) then divide that by 2.5 and it will give you an approx draw length

So basically your height divided by 2.5 for me equals 73.2 cm just shy of 29inches
Will look for brand names as suggested thanks

[BigRAWesty]

So basically your height divided by 2.5 for me equals 73.2 cm just shy of 29inches
Will look for brand names as suggested thanks

Finger tip to tip, not height..

[Winnie]

Finger tip to tip, not height..

Measure your finger span and compare with your height... Will be the same or very very close.

[BigRAWesty]

I've got long legs... ;-)

[threedogs]

Measure your finger span and compare with your height... Will be the same or very very close.

AS winnie says its just about spot on for your height
courtesty of Leonardo de Vinci I think in his famous drawing Lucian Man
Sculpture was not his best work LOL

[Maxhead]

AS winnie says its just about spot on for your height
courtesty of Leonardo de Vinci I think in his famous drawing Lucian Man
Sculpture was not his best work LOL

There id also the length betwewn the tip of your thum and the "up yors" finger which equstes to the length of your you kmow what:0

Sorry for all the mistakes, my hands are just big..

[growler2058]

My preferred weapon of choice:)

2013 Hoyt Carbon Element Bow, 29 Inch, 60 Pound, Hoyt 2 Piece Quiver, Fuse Sight, Fuse Stabilizer, Hoyt Drop Away Arrow Rest,

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Not bad for a girls bow mate, well done

[threedogs]

There id also the length betwewn the tip of your thum and the "up yors" finger which equstes to the length of your you kmow what:0

Sorry for all the mistakes, my hands are just big..

big thumbs will do that lol

[BigRAWesty]

Not bad for a girls bow mate, well done

Common then. What's yours and all the fruit...

[growler2058]

Bear Mauler @ 70#
29" draw
Spot Hogg Hog-it 5pin sight
Trophy ridge quiver
Whisker biscuit
True-fire release aid or truball pinkie release
Widow maker Smash 350 shafts 2" blazers
Outback supreme broad heads

[BigRAWesty]

You guys run full whisker biscuits??

[BigRAWesty]

And another thing with the main string, are they spose to be twisted??
Every pick I see, they are twisted..

Mine isn't..

[Maxhead]

You guys run full whiskey biscuits??

I drink full bottles of whiskey...lol

What you mean by full?

Growler uses whisker biscuit arrow rest
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I use drop away arrow rest . I personally find them a lot quieter
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[BigRAWesty]

Lol..

Yea I'm looking a fully biscuit..

[Maxhead]

And another thing wishbone main string, are they spose to be twisted??
Every pick I see, they are twisted..

Mine isn't..

Whishbone main string??


The bow string might get a slight twist on draw but not excessive


Here's some components of a typical compound
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[megatexture]

Jeez seeing those two bows make me want to upgrade lol but at the end of the day I've never had any issues with mine I think I bought it back in 1998 lmao and it still looks and shoots like new!

[Maxhead]

Jeez seeing those two bows make me want to upgrade lol but at the end of the day I've never had any issues with mine I think I bought it back in 1998 lmao and it still looks and shoots like new!

hahha, that's what counts mate, if you can hit the arrow at your target, you're on a winner:)

[BigRAWesty]

Farking auto correct.. Lol

Just had a chat to a local. Turns out he's the local archery club secretary...

But keen hunter.

So he's gunna have a look at my freebie and see if I need a string, and have a chat at what I should get accessories wise.

I like the 3 point peeps, so that's a given I think, now it's just sort the nock point, rest and sight.
And arrows. Gunna needs lots of arrows... Lol

[BigRAWesty]

And 3/16 or 1/4 peep??

[megatexture]

The string may just need a good waxing

[megatexture]

And 3/16 or 1/4 peep??

It's mainly to get your technique consistent so unless you plan to get bow crazy and shoot all the time I'd go the larger as the smaller ones can tend to make it harder to see in low light conditions its a 10 min job to serve it in if you want to change anyway.

Maybe 20 mins to include carefully removing the old one

[BigRAWesty]

It's mainly to get your technique consistent so unless you plan to get bow crazy and shoot all the time I'd go the larger as the smaller ones can tend to make it harder to see in low light conditions its a 10 min job to serve it in if you want to change anyway.

Maybe 20 mins to include carefully removing the old one

Sweet. 1/4 on its way

[BigRAWesty]

Well imglad I caught up with this local bloke. He has everything I need and very helpful.
He's said I got a bargain, recommends some quality second hand components, and I'll be a happy hunter..

So... Now the fun bit... Hunting for accessories

[megatexture]

You would assume any bow that was free would be a bargain!

[BigRAWesty]

Well yea.
But he has all the tools so I'm looking for a sight..
I'll probably go a whisker biscuit, but I'll save up for a quality second hand sight.
Stay tuned

[BigRAWesty]

Well I'm stunned at the generosity of the ABH forum.
I stuck up a post in the free to good home thread and so far I've been offered

A Fuse Profire 5 sight
A apex release aid and 6" stabiliser..

Shocked but stocked..

[threedogs]

Love this pic I think the gear is called "Real Tree"

[growler2058]

Cammo, good for hunting people
Plenty shoot without cammo, you need to use the wind. You can be 100% invisible but once an animal smells you it'll be gone

Edit: I do like that cammo though

[macca86]

Colour pattern and flat or 3d cammo it doesn't matter as animals are colour blind. Growler is right keep the wind in your face keeps scent and noise muffled.
Other things to keep in mind if wanting to get serious stalking boots must be quiet or easily removed to go barefoot to get close.
Washing your hunting gear use this http://www.anaconda.com.au/Product/Brands/Atsko/Sports-Wash-Detergent as detergents leave scents that are un natural plus have phosphorous that when in the sun to animals makes you have a neon sign saying I'm here as it reflects light strangely that their sight pics up that we can't.
Know the land you hunt on and keep you clothes in a bag with leaves and branches from your hunting area so you smell natural to that area.
Don't shower or use soaps or deodorants or eat spicy foods like curries etc these seep from your skin when you sweat etc.

[Maxhead]

Colour pattern and flat or 3d cammo it doesn't matter as animals are colour blind. Growler is right keep the wind in your face keeps scent and noise muffled.
Other things to keep in mind if wanting to get serious stalking boots must be quiet or easily removed to go barefoot to get close.
Washing your hunting gear use this http://www.anaconda.com.au/Product/Brands/Atsko/Sports-Wash-Detergent as detergents leave scents that are un natural plus have phosphorous that when in the sun to animals makes you have a neon sign saying I'm here as it reflects light strangely that their sight pics up that we can't.
Know the land you hunt on and keep you clothes in a bag with leaves and branches from your hunting area so you smell natural to that area.
Don't shower or use soaps or deodorants or eat spicy foods like curries etc these seep from your skin when you sweat etc.


Ahhh so there is more to it then just pulling the trigger :icon_bonk:

[BigRAWesty]

So I'm finding out...

So arrows is a broad subject.

Tbh I'm looking at fibreglass to for target practice..
There are some good bulk buys on eBay, no not the $1 an arrow ones, looking at these
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/20-x-32-Fiberglass-Arrows-15-80lb-Screw-Tip-Hunting-Target-Recurve-Compound-Bow-/111297097346

[megatexture]

Fibreglass arrows are the most forgiving and fit any archers budget, I've got both alloy and fibreglass but they are both different weights and put the sights out a little because of this so I mainly use fibreglass as its a pain to adjust.

[growler2058]

Make sure you're not under spine or you'll have shattered arrow through your hand

[BigRAWesty]

Gunna try wind my back to 55# for a start, these arrows are good for 80 pound

[BigRAWesty]

And might have just picked up a Qad ultrarest hunter for f-all..
I'm getting excited..

[BigRAWesty]

What causes a string to go like this??

[growler2058]

If that strings on the bow its fubar. If not may need new serving or more serving string tied on

[megatexture]

Ditch that string, looks like its in bad shape that's for sure. If the string let's go mid draw don't expect to use the bow again.

[BigRAWesty]

Yea that's the main string...
Cables are fine.
So now to find a 58" string..
Looked are winners choice and nearly chocked.. But I guess do it once and do it right...

[BigRAWesty]

Well my bow just doubled in value.. Lol

[megatexture]

Jeez that's pretty slack mate you can't even hold it level for a photo!

But how good are the fibre optic sights! You can buy little led attachments to light it up also but prob over kill lol ... Now for a rest

[BigRAWesty]

Bloody oath mate. Bloody awesome.

Yea rest is next. Looking at just a whisker biscuit to start. What's the better option, full or 1/3 biscuits?

[megatexture]

couldnt tell ya mate ive got a drop away, can you go to a local bow shop and try both ?
thats what id be doing or even get there opinion whats best

[BigRAWesty]

Na we don't have a shop. Well we have a gun shop but have been told stay away with a bow.

So I'll ask on the bow forum..

[megatexture]

Ah that's a shame my local will let you try any bow and have many set up for testing.

[growler2058]

Whisker biscuits are brilliant, cheap, simple

Edit: bit like me :)

[AB]

Growler, your generous gift of the accessories for my bow I need are still in my shed...lol

I know...please don't hurt me. I'm just waiting for our next meet up...

Maybe kris's property????

[growler2058]

Growler, your generous gift of the accessories for my bow I need are still in my shed...lol

I know...please don't hurt me. I'm just waiting for our next meet up...

Maybe kris's property????

Sounds good.
Get yourself whisker biscuit mate and youre ready to kill hahahahahahahhaaha sorry if any greenies or those nob heads on stalkbook are offended. Oooops no im not

[BigRAWesty]

full bisuit or 1/3???

[growler2058]

,,,,,,,,,,

[Maxhead]

Hey Westy, forget about these 1/3 toys...they're just a crap rest. Go full or think about drop away mate

[BigRAWesty]

Trying to snag a drop away but ya gotta be super quick

[growler2058]

Dropaways can be a PITA whisker biscuit no moving parts
Keep It Simple Sweet

[BigRAWesty]

Yea that's what I'm thinking to..
Especially seeing I'm doing a full setup and first timer..

[BigRAWesty]

Ok I'm finished ordering.. For now lol

Gone a full whisker biscuit and a 10 pack of fg arrows with a telescopic quive..

So hopefully next weekend I can setup...

Excited..

[oncedisturbed]

Took the plunge and got me a new Warrior-X 60lbs bow kit and case from Apex


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[BigRAWesty]

Nice...

I'm probably not gunna be firing this weekend.. Bloody public holiday

[BigRAWesty]

But I did tie in my 4 way peep

I think the 1/4 is to big.. I can see a full 8mm right around my sight.. Is that normal??

[oncedisturbed]

No idea, never used 1 on a bow before, only used long bow / recurves before. This is all new to me with all the extra gear


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[BigRAWesty]

Makes 2 of us..

[megatexture]

It'll be fine, you will get accustomed to lining it up and averaging the 8mm around your sight with out focusing on it if you know what I mean

[BigRAWesty]

Gunna grab a 3/8 to try as it is a pain

[BigRAWesty]

Have been informed of gifts have arrived..

[BigRAWesty]

Well I'm ready for setup..
Still waiting on a release but can fire a few with hand..

[oncedisturbed]

Just checked my emails and my bow is in the post. Sorry for the small pics but this is the bow I bought. 60lbs Warrior X from Apex Hunting.

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Anyone know where to purchase the arrow locking plate and rest bucket thingy for the quivers at all? I have a template at home for a leather version of the quiver but still need to use those parts and can't seem to find them on their own.


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[BigRAWesty]

Ow a 3 part string.. Heard not good things about them..

[oncedisturbed]

What was the issue with them?

Gecko has a similar model but a lot more exxy than this 1 and is a 75lbs downtuned to 60lbs for the range


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[BigRAWesty]

The alloy joints that hold the strings together can fail.. And a local club can confirm this as it happened at our club on a cheaper bow..

But this was a second hand bow and history unknown so just keep an eye on em..

[Timmo]

Did ya get onto some grunters mate?

no pigs mainly deer and goats, looking at getting out this dry season for a Buff..... but shoulder is killing me at the moment so might have to wait.

[Timmo]

My preferred weapon of choice:)

2013 Hoyt Carbon Element Bow, 29 Inch, 60 Pound, Hoyt 2 Piece Quiver, Fuse Sight, Fuse Stabilizer, Hoyt Drop Away Arrow Rest,

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Truly nice bow.........

[Timmo]

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This is my faithful OLD GLORY by Bowtech pulls 73lb, i use a mixture of Easton power flight 360 and 400 spine carbon arrows tipped with either 100gr ribtecks or 100 gr black stumps that's for goats rabbits and deer and for pigs I use port oxford cedar shafts tipped with tusker Aztecs only because I found hunting pigs with a heavy arrow and heavy heads I have got better penetration... But that's just my opinion.

[oncedisturbed]

Bow came in today, 1st time owning a compound bow and is impressive for a mid range .

Will get Gecko to give us a hand setting it up and will post pics later

[BigRAWesty]

I finally got to put 30 odd arrows down range. Loved it..
Hit some serious changes to make though.. First up I need to reduce my draw length now with the release aid.
Next it adjust the peep as it's to low.
Then shoot in again.

Was great fun though..

[growler2058]

Draw back with your eyes closed with your natural grip. Open them and that's where your peep needs to be

[BigRAWesty]

Will do once I sort my draw length

[megatexture]

You should be able to slide the serving then the peep on the string and do as growler said over and over till its in the right spot then re tighten serving close to the peep.

[megatexture]

4571345713

This is my faithful OLD GLORY by Bowtech pulls 73lb, i use a mixture of Easton power flight 360 and 400 spine carbon arrows tipped with either 100gr ribtecks or 100 gr black stumps that's for goats rabbits and deer and for pigs I use port oxford cedar shafts tipped with tusker Aztecs only because I found hunting pigs with a heavy arrow and heavy heads I have got better penetration... But that's just my opinion.

You can get metal jackets that slide inside the arrow to up the weight as well so it's not just tip heavy.

[BigRAWesty]

So I've had a productive arvo..
I spent hours last night trying to find a vid or a manual but to no avail.
I stumbled across the Hoyt bows manual. After a bit of a read and look over my bow I was thinking.. What the hell.. Let's give it a go..
Well 4 screws and I've not only shortened my draw but I have also adjusted my let off or hold weight..

So since I had less hold weight if cracked the bow back up to max (70-75 pound)
And am a happy chappy..

I also took your advice growler and adjusted the peep so I drew with eyes closed and opened to spot on..
This in turn has made my 1/4 peep spot on also for the size issue and I now see only 1/2 the orange ring of the sight..

So all in all a happy day..
Now to re sight and enjoy..

[BigRAWesty]

So seems I'm the only one enjoying our sport lol..

Yesterday I got the missus to grab a pack of the click together floor mats, $12 from masters.
Cut down into 1/4's so there 300x300
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I then stacked em, glued em and weighed em down for a few hours

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The bug to to much so a quick make shift back drop and my cube infront I sighted the new adjustments in..

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After a few rounds this was from 10m
Low one was a robbin hood moment... ;-)

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And then stepped back to 15 and sighted between the 2 top pins

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I also noticed my peep sliding so I reset it and re tied it.. I think the braid is a bit small but we'll see how this new knot goes..

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So after 2 sessions on the bow I'm pretty happy..

[megatexture]

Yea you may want to make the serving a little longer and wax the string more and it might hold better also

[BigRAWesty]

I think the wax is the issue..
But yea I've done nearly 3 times longer than what I had

[cjb]

Nice idea for a target might have to steal that idea for myself

[growler2058]

Go easy on the serving the more shit on your string the slower ya bow will be every little bit makes a difference ay

[BigRAWesty]

Well I managed another target and I like this one better...

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So much easier to pull arrows from cardboard... And it's 600x600x250 which I feel a bit easier aiming at from 30m
But ofcourse I had to try it..
I moved my rest 1mm to the right and from 10 the arrows moved 150mm to the left..
But from 10 I happy with the spacing.. There is 6 arrows here..
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[Timmo]

great idea.....i use body boards that ya can get when the council does there kerb side rubbish pick up around town, i do the same 3 body boards cut to shape then glued and then wrapped up great for home or out bush

[BigRAWesty]

Yea I've made a second one now. Found out my bows 65#..
And cams were way out...
So I think this is the reason I'm having issues with the arrow hitting the rest..
Paper tune to cime

[megatexture]

I use polystyrene we use sheets for cladding houses and rendering over 5 sheets glued togeather and it weighs nothing also a 2400x1200x75 sheet is like 30$

[threedogs]

Spied this at the Docs , not my idea of hunting.
Seems they have Lion farms and only bred to be shot.
I did here a story a while back that cancer was rampant in
one area and to recoup some research monies they culled all infected animals.

[BigRAWesty]

This grinds my gears...

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/east/residents-join-search-for-birds-shot-with-arrows-in-rowville-as-readers-register-disgust-over-animal-cruelty/story-fngnvlxu-1226967755486?nk=5d7db3ae1a99eb07dde55c0ed44b21c2

[threedogs]

This grinds my gears...

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/east/residents-join-search-for-birds-shot-with-arrows-in-rowville-as-readers-register-disgust-over-animal-cruelty/story-fngnvlxu-1226967755486?nk=5d7db3ae1a99eb07dde55c0ed44b21c2

There is a lot of Scum on the Planet.
@ Kallem how far into the cardboard does the arrow go from 10mtrs

[BigRAWesty]

My arrows are just tipping out the other side of a 250 thick cardboard stack..
That's at 65#

[threedogs]

would it go right through an animal if you got a good shot in or do you use those wire grip ends
sorry don't know what they are called

[BigRAWesty]

Shoit yea...
But feild points do f all.. And I assume it's what these twits shooting birds are using..

You use a broad head to open more up making it a quick kill

[megatexture]

Any broadhead would have decapitated that bird, my bow will put an arrow 2" in a street sign with a field tip and There are many vids on youtube of people hunting pigs with glowing nocks and you can see the arrow pass through the chest of the pig and stick in the ground, they pack a punch !

[Maxhead]

Here's a good video showing penetration through a beef bone. Test is using a Outback broadhead which are one of the toughest in the country(others would just bend)...made in Ballarat .

As you can see speed isn't everything...LOL


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4UVmi2n6oY


It's an ad video but shows what these things are capable of

[threedogs]

Just saw a bit on TV of this good looking Texas cheerleader who is killing exotic, species for conservation,
Rhino, leopard, and lion, She has a face ache page. Killing and conservation are two words that you normally don't see together.
Oh and she's killing all with very high powered rifles and a compound bow. hope some one can find it

[BigRAWesty]

So I need some help.
We have a bloke who wants to turn this pest hunting on private property, which we haven't even got a property for yet, into a business...

I say good luck coz the local rifle clubs do it for nothing as a club day...

Anyway the rest of us want to get some properties to hunt for fun..
Apart from getting out and shaking hands how can we go about it with us making it feel like we're stepping on his business plans...

Does that make sense??

[threedogs]

help him out by spreading the word
, nothing worse than going to a property everyone raves about and it's been shot out for years
Happened to us at Balranald ,plenty of bones but not even a rabbit left to shoot, No we did shoot a mangie fox.
was doing it a favour I think

[BigRAWesty]

But the rest of us just want some properties to hunt on.. The thrill of the hunt is what were after, not financial reward.
I feel it's gunna drive a wedge coz hell see it as us poaching his potential customers..

[megatexture]

Mate it is what it is just say it up front its better to say it now then for him to think your all on the same page. Just tell him your thoughts.
I'd bet there aren't any property's that solely profit from hunting alone they would all use it boost there income from farming or cattle etc.. So unless you want to be a farmer lol

[Maxhead]

There's way too many farkwits trying to shoot/hunt on others properties without permission . These morons will go to any extent to get to where there's anything to kill.(personal experience)

There are a lot of hunters who advertise on our classifieds (Canberra) pages who in my opinion are genuine hunters(both gun and bow).These guys are prepared to put themselves out there and most importantly be able to talk to the farmers/ property owners of what needs to be done. I respect that and if I was ever approached I would most probably let them on my property having the understanding they are there doing a good thing...


Oh this should be in the hunters thread probably..lol

[BigRAWesty]

But would you pay them??

[threedogs]

Other way around we paid $20 a head and had over 1000 acres to shoot, middle of winter, boy is that chilly in central NSW BBRRRrrrrrrrr

[megatexture]

There are places here that allow you to hunt deer on there property and they wasnt 3k to do it so obviously some will pay that. And some want 300 for pigs but I dont think they charge per head its just a duration of hunting

[BigRAWesty]

No no.. We don't wanna pay to hunt..
This fella wanting earn a living off it..

[BigRAWesty]

So a but quiet here.

We've been smashing it..
I destroyed 5 arrows, another bloke has done in 11.. Hahahahahah. But we're enjoying it.

One of the boys has scored himself a hare with his trad bow off the shelf from 20. Great double lung with heart slice.

And the rest of us have been scoping and practising..
This was a quick setup range Sunday arvo
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We had a 10, 20, 40 and 50m setup.
By the end of the session we were all comfortably hitting the A4 paper on the 50m target..
But the 20m target is 300x300 and due to printer ink being low, we all were smashing pink beaver.. Bahahahahahaha

Anyway.. What have you slackers been up to??

[Maxhead]

So a but quiet here.



Anyway.. What have you slackers been up to??

Farking work getting in the way of fun mate. I haven't been for a shot for couple of weeks and it looks like I'll miss out again next week:(