Dual 12v compressor and air tank upgrade

[sil3nt_dr3ams]

Little something I'm working on. I'm going to be running dual 12v compressors soon and had to go for a bigger a tank. Before everyone one goes why? well why not?

The tank I'm using is off an old tractor and believe me when I say its a solid tank. It is going under the car inside the chassis rails and it will be able to take a punishment. The fittings side I will have protective plates.

My old tank,

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The new tank,

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[MEGOMONSTER]

How much air do you need???????
Is the extra weight worth the extra few litres of air.

[Bloodyaussie]

Well done mate... I will be watching with great interest.

I have a small 9lt tank and find it to be too small for popping tyres back on there bead.

It is great having this sort of set up for many jobs needed out on the track..

Interested to see what compressor you run

[threedogs]

Great mod Nice and solid steel tank not one of the lighter construction ones.
You'll be able to run a rattle gun now, Don't forget [non return valve on your air Manifold]

@ Mego weight wise would be very small plus its down low, where most fit an air tank

[sil3nt_dr3ams]

Well lets just say if the two compressors and tank weigh more than 20 kilos i'll be surprised. I could write a list of why im doing this but simply I could just get on with this build.

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I might move this thread or could I have the title change by a mod please to , Dual 12v compressor and tank upgrade.

[sil3nt_dr3ams]

Well done mate... I will be watching with great interest.

I have a small 9lt tank and find it to be too small for popping tyres back on there bead.

It is great having this sort of set up for many jobs needed out on the track..



Interested to see what compressor you run

Amen, mate and also what if one compressor fails? when you really need it?

[Clunk]

Love the idea and will be watching with great interest

[sil3nt_dr3ams]

This is where I am with the mounts,

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[sil3nt_dr3ams]

Current compressor setup I'm dueling it with, as much to peoples disgust it will be going where the center console is and over the top it will be replace with new custom center console.

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[cgm]

Love the idea and will be watching with great interest

Me too! (and this bit is because my message was too small and needed to be at least 10 characters!!!)

[NissanGQ4.2]

I might move this thread or could I have the title change by a mod please to , Dual 12v compressor and tank upgrade.

Title changed mate.

I say go for it mate, and why because you can.

I have had a steel air tank out of a M.A.N truck since 2003, still not in the 4b yet, was one of those projects I started and never finished :(

35914

[threedogs]

X 2 with having a steel tank lying around ,with the promise of fitting it one day,
Then I have this one , Air on Board say the combo is fine for a locker,
internal mount only

[megatexture]

Thought you were fitting a air horn with that one, its only 3ltrs I don't think that will do much regarding tyres but a nice compact unit.

[megatexture]

Title changed mate.

I say go for it mate, and why because you can.

I have had a steel air tank out of a M.A.N truck since 2003, still not in the 4b yet, was one of those projects I started and never finished :(

35914

You need to stop moderating for a min and pull your finger out lol

[sil3nt_dr3ams]

Title changed mate.

I say go for it mate, and why because you can.

I have had a steel air tank out of a M.A.N truck since 2003, still not in the 4b yet, was one of those projects I started and never finished :(

35914

Thanks mate,

Out with the factory wiring and solder joints.

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These compressors have a different thread than normal nitto fittings, so out with the tap and die sets.

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[sil3nt_dr3ams]

Second compressor ready,

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Tank in.

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Now the fun starts, where to put the second compressor.

[sil3nt_dr3ams]

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[threedogs]

Are they sharing a manifold or one for each.
one in each 1/4 panel ???

[Bloodyaussie]

What is the braided line you are using mate... I run one of those compressors and it gets so hot it melts the line all the time.. I have made changes 5 times now.

My other compressor is a TJM one and it gets no where near as hot.

[megatexture]

They look to me to be household plumbing hoses, if they are could be an issue as they are only rated to 90-100 degrees unless they are a specific hose?

[oncedisturbed]

watching this with interest as I have a 9L and 4L airtank at home to install and not to sure of the piping it came with, bought some 225psi rated hose to use instead

[sil3nt_dr3ams]

Rated to 240 degrees and 300psi that's why they are stainless braided?

[oncedisturbed]

SD, might have to tap into your knowledge when I get ready to mine or find someone in Perth so I can have a gander at 1 installed


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[megatexture]

Looks can be deceiving the one in my pic is stainless 90deg and 145 psi, whats a length of that one worth line.

Gonna be a sweet set up though will be interesting to know how fast it's going to do 18- 40 psi in comparison to others. Should be a walk in the park

[sil3nt_dr3ams]

Looks can be deceiving the one in my pic is stainless 90deg and 145 psi, whats a length of that one worth line.

Gonna be a sweet set up though will be interesting to know how fast it's going to do 18- 40 psi in comparison to others. Should be a walk in the park

Lol we talk bout that shit later mate, I'm about two hours away from being finished. Im just bolting the compressor in atm. remove front expose the conduct with my other compressor power feeds and add new one back to battery. Drop in another relay next to the other compressors relay double the switching wires and run another power feed to battery.

[sil3nt_dr3ams]

SD, might have to tap into your knowledge when I get ready to mine or find someone in Perth so I can have a gander at 1 installed


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Lol looks like i have been nick named. SD, can live with that been called worse. Mate Im 450km north of you Geraldton , lol come up have a look always cold piss in the fridge and a place to roll a swag out.

[sil3nt_dr3ams]

These thumper are unreal I've been using the first one flat out for nearly two years and I run my nail guns at work with it.

Cylinder: 60mm
Voltage: DC 12V
Air Flow: 160L/min
Maximum pressure: 150PSI
Maximum amperage: 45A



Can be hard wired
Auto reset thermal protection
Heavy-duty 2m power cord with battery clamps
Features built in circuit breaker and automatic thermal cut-off
8m nylon hose with inline pressure gauge
Maximum voltage: 13.8V
Maximum amp draw: 45A
Maximum restart pressure: 150PSI
Maximum operating temperature: 140°F
Minimum operating temperature: -67°F

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Will have a switch to run either one or two compressors.

According to the maths should be 11.3cfm

[sil3nt_dr3ams]

Eerything is wired in and running perfect, so how are we going to test this setup?

[oncedisturbed]

Definetly a neat set up

[sil3nt_dr3ams]

Definetly a neat set up

Mate the setup its self isnt hard at all. Its the time and effort that goes into each fittings and each wire. Fuses relays. I've been working on my base wiring system for months . I'll upload some pics in a minute

[megatexture]

The time it takes to pump 4 tyres from 16- 40 psi and compressor temps at the end, you would think being 2 compressors then they wouldn't need to work as hard.
Then do the same test with each compressor on its own recording time and compressor temps again as a comparison.

[sil3nt_dr3ams]

33 inch tyres valve removed to 40 psi 1.40m and full set 18- 40 psi under 3 minutes.

[megatexture]

That's no good ! 1:40 per tyre ...... when do you get a chance to get a beer from the waeco lol.
Thats awsome .. now I need 2nd compressor lol

[sil3nt_dr3ams]

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Not bad since I started this project Friday night, I'm one tired puppy.

[oncedisturbed]

That's some impressive wiring and set up, have been meaning to do the LED underlight thing myself but keep forgetting

[sil3nt_dr3ams]

I have 5 led switches, I turn them all on and my car inside and outside is like a daylight. I don't have work lights anymore .

I brought a new set of tyres today should be on the car buy Thursday, Car is a 4 inch lift kit just I sprayed everything black to keep the police from looking.

[my third 256]

looks like you got excited in the second picture with all the excellent work you have done

[oncedisturbed]

looks like you got excited in the second picture with all the excellent work you have done


bwahahahaha

[sil3nt_dr3ams]

haha funny aren't we,

Compressors have proved themselves over the past few weeks both removing sets of tyres with a rattle gun, die grinders air drills. Plus using them for my nail guns at work all day. But running them all day is a strain on one battery alone so what I'm going to do is setup my compressors like a dual battery setup with a manual switch. So i can run compressors on ethier 1st or 2nd battery or both. When im pumping all my mates tyres up as I often get stuck with a can use the primary battery with the alternator providing the power.

Please put your input in, Cuppa if your reading please put your input in.

Have some pics in a sec

[BigRAWesty]

Well can't say your not in the spirit. A bit of tinsel and you'll be driBing a Christmas tree... :D

Jk.. Looks awesome.
So where are these new shoes??? It's nit true without pics..

[megatexture]

Mate depending on how much the compeessor runs througout the day your gonna need plenty of amp hr unless you run the car, compressors can suck alot of amps how long do you run it for ?

[threedogs]

@ SD don't know your driving style but you think tank is OK for ramp over angle.
Love the led lighting, take it they are only led strip lights?
Awesome times to inflate but no time for mandatory beer during air up, lol

Edit @ mega anything up to 65 amp maybe more ,

[megatexture]

Sca don't say what amps/ @ psi. Draw the compressor is so you may need to test it if you want a fair idea of what your going to use.

[sil3nt_dr3ams]

I would have put pics up sooner but i had a little accident on push bike, rather nasty one.

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[sil3nt_dr3ams]

I'm always keeping an eye on my battery's. The compressors I am running are big and these two together are as good as my belt driven one in my workshop.

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[sil3nt_dr3ams]

Mate depending on how much the compeessor runs througout the day your gonna need plenty of amp hr unless you run the car, compressors can suck alot of amps how long do you run it for ? Its hard to when i was using the compressors for my nail guns it was for 2 long days.

[sil3nt_dr3ams]

Re-wire begins,

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I solider heat shrink everything,

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[sil3nt_dr3ams]

I should have seen this, I cant do it this way because it physically will join the wiring for both batteries . I would love some input here, the only way I can see out of this is if I go ahead and add the third battery now.

[sil3nt_dr3ams]

Not sure who is following but after some thought I pulled the Dual battery switch/isolator apart and worked out the contact points and filed down the part where the switch makes contact joining the batterys.

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So from the Common it only able to select ether source 1 or 2 no 1+2.

[megatexture]

You do know you can buy them like that? Mines 1 , 2, 1+2 and off and was under 30$ rated 150 amp

[Limpie]

Hi SD. Did you made provision for airflow? My compressor gets quite hot.

[Skitzyrex]

These compressors have a different thread than normal nitto fittings, so out with the tap and die sets.

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Hey Silent,
Can I ask what fitting you started with to put into the end of the compressor? I'm guessing 1/4 bsp? Then what did you cut it to, to get it to fit?
I'm trying to do something similar and put a pressure valve off a tee piece and couldn't find anything to fit. Grr

Thank you
Mick

[threedogs]

@ Srex idealy you want a non return valve and may be an air manifold to fit the pressure valve to

[Skitzyrex]

@ Srex idealy you want a non return valve and may be an air manifold to fit the pressure valve to

Cheers mate, I have seen the manifolds but only in npt. I need to be able to get out of the compressor first, either npt or bsp to be able to attach one. I've already been to a couple of fitting shops including Enzed and it's not a common thread which is annoying.

[threedogs]

Which compressor did you buy ??
and where are you??

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/12V-TRUCK-PICKUP-ON-BOARD-AIR-HORN-AIR-COMPRESSOR-WITH-3-LITER-TANK-125PSI-/272056931559

I have this one for air horn,,, front diff lock.
Plus another for tyres , but too big for under bonnet installation

[threedogs]

@ strex I think looking at the compressor they have used a bolt thread from the head through the handle to
the nitto fitting,,,,, either 10mm x 1.25 or 8mm x 1.25,,,,,,,,, Sounds right to me.
Are you mounting it as well ,if so Id remove the handle, but thats just me.lol

https://www.valvesonline.com.au/references/threads/

[Skitzyrex]

@ strex I recond looking at the compressor they have used a bolt thread from the head through the handle to
the nitto fitting,,,,, either 10mm x 1.25 or 8mm x 1.25,,,,,,,,, Sounds right to me.
Are you mounting it as well ,if so Id remove the handle, but thats just me.lol

https://www.valvesonline.com.au/references/threads/

I did originally have the handle off 3dogs but that was a different thread again. So on that one handle there were 3 different threads. Talk about making it confusing. Haha