Self sufficient

[florix]

I am planing on getting my rig setup to be self sufficient so today my ground anchor turned up to add to my kit (winch extension strap, snatch strap, tree trunk protector, snatch block, shackles, tool kit, compressor and deflator, shovel and high lift jack, axe, long handle pruners and a work light)
What other items do you recommend? Apart from extinguisher, which is coming soon. Oh and bog paper which keep forgetting to put in the car.

3319933200

[threedogs]

Try to have things that have more than one purpose,
What do you mean by self sufficient ??

[florix]

Meaning that if I happen to be alone I can get out/ through/over and have everything I need to get out of trouble. I know the list is endless but I mean more of necessities if you say pop a bead or tyre. Get stuck/ bogged have electrical issues and so on

[taslucas]

A chainsaw maybe.
Tyre repair kit.
Jump starter pack or solar trickle charge.
An epirb for just incase

[rusty_nail]

A chainsaw maybe.
Tyre repair kit.
Jump starter pack or solar trickle charge.
An epirb for just incase

x2 chainsaw for sure

[mudnut]

Some wooden blocks for packing.(Use number two is emergency firewood).:) And a range of nuts and bolts. (needed a nut when the panhard popped off the axle)

[threedogs]

A purpose built {length} rachett strap to help seal popped bead, 9mtr of herc alloy draig chain. Jacking plate[s]
One item I've found invaluable is a garden Hoe, great for dragging mud from around and under your 4x4,compressor
Fiskar x27 axe. all sprays WD40 etc, fuses to suit, ground sheet, safety glasses ,work gloves, as you said the list is endless
but if ppl keep naming stuff you could cull from that.
FIRST AID KIT A GOOD ONE

[MudRunnerTD]

When we did the Madigan Line we were a long way from any where or anything! f you did not have the means to fix, repair, or replace you abandoned.

Satellite Phone
24 Volt Welder
Spare Fuel Filter
Bead Breaker
Full set of Belts and Hoses for YOUR Car

[threedogs]

Radiator flakes or similar, oils

[florix]

Thanks everybody. Yeah I have a first aid kit and forgot to mention the tyre repair kit.
I have a Father's Day present of a dual battery system too so will a jump starter be needed?
Next time I change my belts I will be keeping them in the back of the car ;)

I also have a bolt bucket in the shed that has been a savior for many things.

Was thinking a chainsaw but I went for the old fashioned approach as its lighter and easier to carry

[florix]

I have an alloy radiator. Will those flakes work? I know there is a special repair kit out there but I have made sure my radiator is well protected too

[BigRAWesty]

When we did the Madigan Line we were a long way from any where or anything! f you did not have the means to fix, repair, or replace you abandoned.

Satellite Phone
24 Volt Welder
Spare Fuel Filter
Bead Breaker
Full set of Belts and Hoses for YOUR Car

Was thinking the other day about battery welding, how does it affect modern car computers? Do you use a spike protected jump lead then hand piece, or remove battery then use??

In addition to welder you need rods and helmet.. $12 from boc..

[pearcey]

G`day florix
All you need for a split or holed radiator is ground pepper works great and the radiator specialists will love you as it cleans out with a quick flush.

Kallen
Remove or at least disconnect the battery but REMEMBER all your codes.

[BigRAWesty]

G`day florix
All you need for a split or holed radiator is ground pepper works great and the radiator specialists will love you as it cleans out with a quick flush.

Kallen
Remove or at least disconnect the battery but REMEMBER all your codes.

Mighty GQ so it's before computers.. Lol

[pearcey]

G`day florix
All you need for a radiator repair is ground pepper, works great and the radiator specialists will love you as all they have to do to clean it is a quick flush.

Kallen
Remove or at least disconnect the battery, but be sure to REMEMBER the codes

[MudRunnerTD]

Was thinking the other day about battery welding, how does it affect modern car computers? Do you use a spike protected jump lead then hand piece, or remove battery then use??

In addition to welder you need rods and helmet.. $12 from boc..


Take the batteries out and set up 24v

[florix]

This list is starting to get interesting. And yes the good ok pepper trick.

Just how compact can a 24v welder get?

[liftlid]

When we did the Madigan Line we were a long way from any where or anything! f you did not have the means to fix, repair, or replace you abandoned.

Satellite Phone
24 Volt Welder
Spare Fuel Filter
Bead Breaker
Full set of Belts and Hoses for YOUR Car

On this trip we had 2 welders and sat phones.
The welder fits under one side of the back seat in a gq, out of its case

[pearcey]

This list is starting to get interesting. And yes the good ok pepper trick.

Just how compact can a 24v welder get?

mate two good battery's joined in series

[DX grunt]

Try this list.

If it's not on here, you probably don't need to take it. lol. Feel free to add to it.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?17709-The-mother-of-all-camping-lists

Take care out there.

Rossco

[florix]

That's the sort of list I was looking for

[liftlid]

I don't like that list

[threedogs]

You might want to add bush repairs to your list,

Watching a repeat of Myth busters they punched a hole through the front of a radiator,
.
Started the car and cracked an egg into it, stopped in a few seconds

[florix]

@ lift
Why don't you like that list?

[florix]

The only way I like my eggs is with bacon

[liftlid]

@ lift
Why don't you like that list?

Got a lot of stuff that is nice to have and left off stuff you need to have, if your travelling remote your car will weigh over 2 ton, so take the important stuff, getting ready for the w/e trip thinking of doing a list next week

[threedogs]

That list was not a bible of what everyone should take but trying to cover all bases. then you select whats right for you.
everyone has different ideas on what to take, one of my first lists was $50 of beer an a tin of baked beans, go figure
Bad luck if the vehicle broke down

[liftlid]

That list was not a bible of what everyone should take but trying to cover all bases. then you select whats right for you.
everyone has different ideas on what to take, one of my first lists was $50 of beer an a tin of baked beans, go figure
Bad luck if the vehicle broke down

Yeah I agree with you on selecting what's right for you, I just don't like trusting luck. Everything is a compromise though. It's just my opinion but I don't demand people follow it

[florix]

It's a decent list that can be used as a guideline and will allow me to create a list for myself. I have an idea of the things I want to I Clyde for a weekend or a several week long trip. Again with everything my first time camping I brought everything and as time went on what I took got smaller.

[MudRunnerTD]

I read that list as a bit of a piss take to be honest! If it was to be given real consideration then I am with LiftLid. The problem is that that list is MASSIVE! The biggest problem most will face just before you leave is this:- what should I NOT Take. Because now I weigh 3.5t and have 600kgs on the bloody roof.

Work up a list of what you really need, what you'd like to take and what would be very nice to have... See what you can make work from the second and third list in the first list.

To be truly "self sufficient" you have no real room for luxury.

Working from the Worst case scenario backwards and the list will be real.

Welder,
Spare shock,
Fuel filter,
A set of mixed bushes,
A set of belts that fit,
A set of hoses,
Water in more than one place.
A Metric tool set. Leave the AF set at home.

3 different saucepans would not make my list. 1 also makes a good sink for doing the dishes ;)

You get my point I'm sure. A Newby needs to not be swamped for choice, they will do that all by themselves ;) they need guidance on what they Really need.

My 2c

[taslucas]

Also depends on where you're driving and also how far from civilisation (fuel, food, water, help) you are going.
An example for me is that I mainly do day trips close to home in areas that my friends know well and usually in phone reception so if something bad happens I can get help quick.
In tassie you're never far from water either.
In contrast, it is completely different if you're going deep into isolated desert areas with no help, no water, no food, no fuel close by.
So if you work out where (and what conditions) you're going to be driving in mostly then you can work out what gear you really cant do without.
Also, as has been mentioned, all the gear in the world is no good unless you are competent in using it so practice before you have to rely on it

[NP99]

Some JB weld too

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/JB-J-B-WELD-WORLDS-STRONGEST-COLD-WELD-INDUSTRIAL-STRENGTH-EPOXY-ADHESIVE-GLUE-/261269284566?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3cd4dce6d6&_uhb=1

[liftlid]

I am planing on getting my rig setup to be self sufficient so today my ground anchor turned up to add to my kit (winch extension strap, snatch strap, tree trunk protector, snatch block, shackles, tool kit, compressor and deflator, shovel and high lift jack, axe, long handle pruners and a work light)
What other items do you recommend? Apart from extinguisher, which is coming soon. Oh and bog paper which keep forgetting to put in the car.

3319933200

The original post was about being self sufficient so that means carrying everything you will need and not relying on what you might be able to get on the way. That limits you greatly

[florix]

Sorry but I was more referring to my car and not me. So that if anything minor happens I can mend it and keep going. I know and understand what is needed to camp and have for yourself to survive. I was more wondering what everybody was taking with them for that week long trip to nowhere as such. I know if I rip a wheel off or bust something that is big will need a list of parts to fix in its self.

But yeah from what I have received I can come to the conclusion that you need;
fluids (brake, oil, water, etc)
some hoses
belts
length of electrical wire
recovery gear
Tyre repair kit
jar of bolts
Fire extinguisher
Welder for those longer trips
Axe (chainsaw)
Shovel
Fuel filter
Tools
And a few odds and ends

I am going to set up some roller buckets to chuck in the back so depending on the length of time and where I am going I can pick up the buckets accordingly. I know this is gonna be a time when I don't have what I need but I just don't want a holiday cut short because of an easy fix if I had the gear.

[liftlid]

Sorry but I was more referring to my car and not me. So that if anything minor happens I can mend it and keep going. I know and understand what is needed to camp and have for yourself to survive. I was more wondering what everybody was taking with them for that week long trip to nowhere as such. I know if I rip a wheel off or bust something that is big will need a list of parts to fix in its self.

But yeah from what I have received I can come to the conclusion that you need;
fluids (brake, oil, water, etc)
some hoses
belts
length of electrical wire
recovery gear
Tyre repair kit
jar of bolts
Fire extinguisher
Welder for those longer trips
Axe (chainsaw)
Shovel
Fuel filter
Tools
And a few odds and ends

I am going to set up some roller buckets to chuck in the back so depending on the length of time and where I am going I can pick up the buckets accordingly. I know this is gonna be a time when I don't have what I need but I just don't want a holiday cut short because of an easy fix if I had the gear.

I was referring to the car as well, camping stuff is personal choice

[florix]

It's not a literal question, I'm not a Yankee I'm an Aussie with a she'll be right mate attitude lol. I was more looking for that item people carry that has multiple uses or is invaluable as such the basic knowledgeable items are a given. You know like the steel wool trick or the good ol million use zip ties or that piece of wood or a length of pipe and so on