12V stove

[Winnie]

Last weekend I went to Dargo with a few mates and when we got to the top of the pinnacles, one guy goes "who wants a hot pie?" We laughed because it was snowing outside, he goes to the back of his car and pulls out 5 hot pies. I thought he must have had a Travel Buddy but no, a $40 12V stove from Dick Smith! We were eating party pies and chicken strips all day! I went and bought one today, put half an inch of water in the bottom of it and cooked dim sims on the way home from work!
At over $200 I was never interested in a Travel Buddy but at $40 I snatched this up and it works great!

http://dicksmith.com.au/product/M4515/dick-smith-12v-dc-portable-stove


Only problem is that the lead gets pretty warm so I am going to open it up and put some thicker cable in. I reckon it's a great little toy!

[MudRunnerTD]

yeah i went through a couple of those and never liked the hot lead and went the travel buddy and never looked back.

[Bloodyaussie]

What were the pies like???

[gaddy]

I could see that been great when night fishing the beaches in the middle of winter

Steve

[Woof]

Just found them here for $26 http://www.yourchoyceshop.com.au/buy/12v-dc-portable-stove-82516

[Cuppa]

I suggest that whilst you are replacing the cable that you also change the plug to either an Anderson plug or at the least a quality Hella style plug & socket & install heavier wires going to the battery (via a suitable fuse) . Cig lighters are not designed to take that sort of current & you risk setting fire to your car because of the wires supplying the cig lighter plug overheating. It would also be wise to ensure that it is wired so that it can only operate with the ignition switched on (ie. motor running) to avoid inadvertantly flattening your battery. Using a relay to achieve this would make sense.

Cuppa

[threedogs]

X 2 with Cuppa plus big price difference between the Travell Buddy and the Dick Smith unit
considering they do the same thing. Dick smith for me, heard lots of good reports about them

[Winnie]

I suggest that whilst you are replacing the cable that you also change the plug to either an Anderson plug or at the least a quality Hella style plug & socket & install heavier wires going to the battery (via a suitable fuse) . Cig lighters are not designed to take that sort of current & you risk setting fire to your car because of the wires supplying the cig lighter plug overheating. It would also be wise to ensure that it is wired so that it can only operate with the ignition switched on (ie. motor running) to avoid inadvertantly flattening your battery. Using a relay to achieve this would make sense.

Cuppa

Doesn't use as much juice as you'd think, the element is very small, has a 15A fuse in it, some cig chargers are up to 10A.


What were the pies like???

Just like they had come out of a pie warmer.


Just found them here for $26 http://www.yourchoyceshop.com.au/buy/12v-dc-portable-stove-82516

Bargain!!

[Bloodyaussie]

Just found them here for $26 http://www.yourchoyceshop.com.au/buy/12v-dc-portable-stove-82516

Good find.. ordered one.

[AB]

Looks like it would draw about 10amps.

[Cuppa]

Doesn't use as much juice as you'd think, the element is very small, has a 15A fuse in it,



Yep I read that in the specs. Pulling 10 amps is plenty to cause a fire if the wires supplying the cig lighter are too light. It is not reasonable to assume that if a cig lighter is rated at up to 10 amps that the wires supplying it are. It is also a bit suss that a 15 amp fuse is supplied for use with cig lighters rated for 10 amps. The fact that the supplied cable gets pretty warm is also not an indicator of a quality appliance. Still it's your car & your decision about what you choose to do mate. I still suggest that at the very least that you ensure the supply wires to the cig plug are as heavy as those you intend to upgrade the appliance cable to, & that you check the current rating of your particular cig lighter socket. The advantage of spending a few more dollars on quality Hella type socket & plug is that they have more contact surface & a more secure connection, making it less likely to overheat because of resistance from a poor connection.

Cuppa

[TPC]

Yep I read that in the specs. Pulling 10 amps is plenty to cause a fire if the wires supplying the cig lighter are too light. It is not reasonable to assume that if a cig lighter is rated at up to 10 amps that the wires supplying it are. It is also a bit suss that a 15 amp fuse is supplied for use with cig lighters rated for 10 amps. The fact that the supplied cable gets pretty warm is also not an indicator of a quality appliance. Still it's your car & your decision about what you choose to do mate. I still suggest that at the very least that you ensure the supply wires to the cig plug are as heavy as those you intend to upgrade the appliance cable to, & that you check the current rating of your particular cig lighter socket. The advantage of spending a few more dollars on quality Hella type socket & plug is that they have more contact surface & a more secure connection, making it less likely to overheat because of resistance from a poor connection.

Cuppa

Agree with you Cuppa, through my work I have seen what happens when under rated plugs and wiring are used for high current devices, and 10 amps is high current for a car appliance.

I am thinking of buying one of these myself but will change the wiring and use an Anderson plug, will also only use it on aux battery when not running.

[NP99]

Just found them here for $26 http://www.yourchoyceshop.com.au/buy/12v-dc-portable-stove-82516

Nearly half price.....same item......there is always a hefty markup on gear :(

[Winnie]

Yep I read that in the specs. Pulling 10 amps is plenty to cause a fire if the wires supplying the cig lighter are too light. It is not reasonable to assume that if a cig lighter is rated at up to 10 amps that the wires supplying it are. It is also a bit suss that a 15 amp fuse is supplied for use with cig lighters rated for 10 amps. The fact that the supplied cable gets pretty warm is also not an indicator of a quality appliance. Still it's your car & your decision about what you choose to do mate. I still suggest that at the very least that you ensure the supply wires to the cig plug are as heavy as those you intend to upgrade the appliance cable to, & that you check the current rating of your particular cig lighter socket. The advantage of spending a few more dollars on quality Hella type socket & plug is that they have more contact surface & a more secure connection, making it less likely to overheat because of resistance from a poor connection.

Cuppa

I've got 2 cig sockets under the seat with 6mm cable running to them so I'll be right there

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[AB]

Agree with cuppa too. As a safety precaution I wouldn't use it on the standard cig plug on the dash.

Whoever gets one of these though can they give us a report back...lol

[twase]

FYI, if you have heating on the leads then you have significant power (IR) loss in the leads, upgrading them to a larger csa will result in the device drawing even more power from your lighter socket. Although the result might be hotter pies quicker I would suggest measuring the current draw after the lead upgrade to make sure you are not overloading your vehicles wiring.

[kevin07]

well being a coeliac ( gluten intolerance) im up for one as i have to take food with me most of the time

[Yendor]

Looks good Winnie. Can you adjust the temperature?

[healy]

Nothing better than a travel buddy think I bought one last year at the 4x4 show for $150

[Winnie]

Looks good Winnie. Can you adjust the temperature?

Nope no adjustment

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[threedogs]

Did Jaycar do a similar product ??, Must show yawl my hotdog cooker[homemade]
Fashioned it using a pot and guts from a 12v kettle.

@ Winnie how did Dim Sims turn out never had them boiled before or were you steaming them somehow??

I only used my unit via the AUX Batt cig outlet, but much prefer merit/anderson, But when travelling in convoy and sharing equipment not all people have EG a Merit socket, Thats why I've made adaptors for cig to merit and vice versa Easy to make and cheap to.

[Winnie]

Did Jaycar do a similar product ??, Must show yawl my hotdog cooker[homemade]
Fashioned if using a pot and guts from a 12v kettle.
@ Winnie how did Dim Sims turn out never had them boiled before or were you steaming them somehow??

Little bit of water in the bottom and they steamed nicely.

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[threedogs]

Cool, steamed dimmys after a some wheeling how goods that.

[MC97GQ]

Has anyone got a photo of it out of the plastic case or at least open,

Sounds like a good thing.

Mark

[threedogs]

Think they look like alloy dishes both sides {smooth] , so you could for EG tip in a few tins of baked beans
go driving while they warm up.
This is pic of larger style

[Winnie]

Think they look like alloy dishes both sides {smooth] , so you could for EG tip in a few tins of baked beans
go driving while they warm up.

Yep that's right. Easy clean up too. Just did a chiko roll yummy

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[MC97GQ]

Thanks for the photo 3dogs,

Winnie, how do you know how long to cook the food for: ie do you know what temperature it works at.

Sorry for all the questions just curious.

Mark

[Winnie]

I wouldn't cook food in it, just heat it up. Just gotta guess whether it's done or not really. It says heats to 150c but would depend on what's in it.

[threedogs]

look it up on ebay or similar and it tells you times like rice 30mins pies maybe 50 min stuff like that'
But I would think that would vary, cant think of anything better on a freezing day driving to whip out a few pies like Winnies mate did.

[janderson]

Well for only $26 delivered, I purchase one. Be great when in the bush all day cutting fire wood. Homemade hot meat pies for lunch, got to be better than sandwiches.

[NP99]

Damn........DS had them on sale while back for $15

[threedogs]

@ Winnie you should have brought shares before you told everyone about them lol


@NP99 wow thats a good price, Jaycar sell a similar unit for $50.
Can see it staying in the 4BY all the time,
might have to start a sticky for recipes

[Bloodyaussie]

Well for only $26 delivered, I purchase one. Be great when in the bush all day cutting fire wood. Homemade hot meat pies for lunch, got to be better than sandwiches.

Thats right... nice change from the normal lunch options.. I will be re doing all the power leads and plug though??

[threedogs]

@ Kevin07 heres what I take camping, as not many ppl have compatible 12v accessories.
as for the stove you might just want to change the plug to merit if you're not confident in pulling the pie
warmer/stove apart. Hopefully another member will do a DIY project for all to follow, hint to someone.
As you can see I have a plug for any situation
@ BA can you do step by step so others can upgrade their stove as I think a few were sold in the last week lol

[threedogs]

Bumped, My stove just arrived, interested to see how it makes grilled cheese sandwich.
Smaller than what I thought , about 2 pies wide, But for the price I can't complain.
Might make a small rack to house 4 x pies. I'll give it a run asap
Now we need recipe thread

[jack]

Still waiting on mine, we have a recipe thread but looks like it lapsed.
Maybe time to restart it http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?1526-Recipes-and-Food

Edit; It's arrived, now to work out how to replace the lead as advised by Cuppa

[Maxhead]

Still waiting on mine, we have a recipe thread but looks like it lapsed.
Maybe time to restart it http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?1526-Recipes-and-Food

Edit; It's arrived, now to work out how to replace the lead as advised by Cuppa

I don't reckon you need any recipes. Its just plug in, throw in the tucker, wait and enjoy :)

[Winnie]

That's right, maybe not so much recipes, but "what is REALLY awesome in this thing"
I did a chiko roll the other day.

[Stropp]

mmm chicko roll reminds me of the sheila on the harley eatin a chicko roll mmmm :)

[threedogs]

@ strop big bucks that poster now. how would you do a grilled sandwich or rice.
are you just re heating??/

Still haven't used my Dream pot and had that 3-4 yrs now

[Winnie]

Yeah the little book that comes with it says you can do grilled cheese sangers.... I guess because the bottom gets pretty damn hot that would grill it?

[meh]

Jaycar have these on sale at the moment $39.95
New store opened at browns plains

[jack]

meh, looks exactly the same as the $26 version except I think it heats up to 150C

[janderson]

meh, looks exactly the same as the $26 version except I think it heats up to 150C

Mine arrived today. It also heats to 150c, the $26 one

[NP99]

The DS procurement manager must be scratching his head. wtf with the spike in sales :)

[threedogs]

@ NP99 told Winnie to buy shares before letting the cat out of the bag,

[ShaunM]

The DS procurement manager must be scratching his head. wtf with the spike in sales :)

Haha, I've ordered one too. Looking forward to a hot lunch on the road.

[janderson]

Tested mine today. Run it for about 2 hours. The plug didn't get hot at all, the lead did get a little warm but I don't think its an issue. The unit itself did get quite hot, I would be careful as to what it sits on during use.

[Winnie]

Really? The plastic outer of mine doesn't get warm at all.

[janderson]

Really? The plastic outer of mine doesn't get warm at all.

I better have a closer look tomorrow. Maybe check the inside temp.

[Bloodyaussie]

Mine arrived today but have yet not unpacked it yet.....

Will test it tomorrow!!

[janderson]

Really? The plastic outer of mine doesn't get warm at all.

test done. Lead at 30c to 32c over 3 hour period. Plug remained cool. However it was a problem to keep it in the socket, kept on popping out enough to turn off. Inside base reached 142c in 1 hour and got to 150c when checked at 3 hours. Bottom of the unit on the out side, after 1 hour 40c, and after 2 hours it reached 51c. Temp around the centre on the out side reached 66c in 2 hours.

[NP99]

Jaycar have these on sale at the moment $39.95
New store opened at browns plains

High jack for a moment, that cig lighter ext cord in the jaycar advert looks like a potential problem!!!

[threedogs]

Going to put a merit plug on mine tomorrow, never liked cig lighters plugs on anything 4x4.
Brought a neat little red "T" handle for the 50 amp anderson plug, makes life easier
pulling them apart.

[janderson]

Going to put a merit plug on mine tomorrow, never liked cig lighters plugs on anything 4x4.
Brought a neat little red "T" handle for the 50 amp anderson plug, makes life easier
pulling them apart.

I'm going to have to get some merit plugs and sockets and add to battery box. Use to use stainless marine plugs but cannot seem to be able to get them now.

[NP99]

Sales will increase further. I gave the link to some army mates....... :)

[Bloodyaussie]

How long would it take to cook a frozen meat pie?????

[Winnie]

At least an hour I reckon, probably more. The idea is to put the stuff in before you're hungry when you're on the tracks, and when you pull up to camp it's ready.


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[BigRAWesty]

Would be good to set the temps.. I know for a fact that a meat pie will be ready to eat from frozen in 3hours at 80 degrees.
But she would be one sorry looking pie at 150...

Kallen Westbrook
Owner of
Westy's Accessories (http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?15134-Westy-s-Accessories.-A-small-back-yard-builder.)

[NP99]

Would be good to set the temps.. I know for a fact that a meat pie will be ready to eat from frozen in 3hours at 80 degrees.
But she would be one sorry looking pie at 150...

Kallen Westbrook
Owner of
Westy's Accessories (http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?15134-Westy-s-Accessories.-A-small-back-yard-builder.)

Maybe 90min@150?

[MEGOMONSTER]

Last weekend I went to Dargo with a few mates and when we got to the top of the pinnacles, one guy goes "who wants a hot pie?" We laughed because it was snowing outside, he goes to the back of his car and pulls out 5 hot pies. I thought he must have had a Travel Buddy but no, a $40 12V stove from Dick Smith! We were eating party pies and chicken strips all day! I went and bought one today, put half an inch of water in the bottom of it and cooked dim sims on the way home from work!
At over $200 I was never interested in a Travel Buddy but at $40 I snatched this up and it works great!

http://dicksmith.com.au/product/M4515/dick-smith-12v-dc-portable-stove


Only problem is that the lead gets pretty warm so I am going to open it up and put some thicker cable in. I reckon it's a great little toy!

Went and looked at this today at Dick Smiths Point Cook and is a little small for my liking. But I suppose for a couple pies it'll be good enough.

[threedogs]

@ Mego Yeah not for a 3 course meal ,but great to have some hot food after a few hours 4x4ing
on a chilly day. While you do your thing its cooking [heating] away ready for your lunch break

[NP99]

Went and looked at this today at Dick Smiths Point Cook and is a little small for my liking. But I suppose for a couple pies it'll be good enough.

It's ok for a few beers if you're from the motherland :)

[MEGOMONSTER]

@ Mego Yeah not for a 3 course meal ,but great to have some hot food after a few hours 4x4ing
on a chilly day. While you do your thing its cooking [heating] away ready for your lunch break

That's why I went to have a look at one, I thought this would be great when going fishing on a day trip.

[Bloodyaussie]

That's why I went to have a look at one, I thought this would be great when going fishing on a day trip.

In your giant hands it would look like a box of matches????

[threedogs]

Just fill it with baked beans/spagetti and crack some eggs on top, Happy days with some crusty bread

[MEGOMONSTER]

I am still contemplating which way to go.
Even the travel buddy looks tiny and expensive.
But looks great.

[threedogs]

Have a look at the Jaycar unit ,pretty sure thats bigger

[MEGOMONSTER]

I'd love to put some cheese kranskis in one and have then ready to snack on later. That sounds like a plan. Mmmmmmmm kranskis.
I think I'll have another look at them, with an open mind.

[Bloodyaussie]

I'd love to put some cheese kranskis in one and have then ready to snack on later. That sounds like a plan. Mmmmmmmm kranskis.
I think I'll have another look at them, with an open mind.

Your making me hungry... I love a Kransky in a roll with ham cheese and tomato and tomato sauce...yum yum!!!

[threedogs]

I'm a hot CSABI fan at camp. cut a piece and toast over fire mmmmmmm Csabi

[MEGOMONSTER]

I love a good kaiserfleisch on a camp fire and would probably work just as well in this 12v stove.
Kaiserfleisch is just smoked pork belly.
I think I am being too picky, as I am just used to the big pie warmers and see this little tiny box of a warmer.

[threedogs]

This is what I used to use, called it my Hotdog cooker. Just took the guts out of a 12v kettle and put in inside this pot.
Controlled by a thermostat, just plug in go driving for an hour or so. cut some rolls in half. Instant HOT DOGS.
Will try this Dick Smith one up Tallarook on the 2nd with BA and the gang. thinking heinz spaggetti with 2 eggs cracked on top.
This product is a good example of value for money, If I get 10 meals out of it, I'd be happy. Looked after I can see it lasting a while.

@ Winnie which ones you find better Chicko rolls or Dim Sims, just getting ideas for meals

[Winnie]

Well that depends if you like chiko rolls or dim sims better! Both tasted like they came from the fish and chip shop.

[threedogs]

Thinking big pile of steamed dimmy's now .
Thanks Winnie

[NP99]

Check out the price here

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/LION-PRODUCTS-12-VOLT-PORTABLE-OVEN-STOVE-/261088500076?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item3cca16596c&_uhb=1

[BigRAWesty]

Check out the price here

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/LION-PRODUCTS-12-VOLT-PORTABLE-OVEN-STOVE-/261088500076?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item3cca1 6596c&_uhb=1

Bargin...

Kallen Westbrook
Owner of
Westy's Accessories (http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?15134-Westy-s-Accessories.-A-small-back-yard-builder.)

[patrolmq]

Just found them here for $26 http://www.yourchoyceshop.com.au/buy/12v-dc-portable-stove-82516

Thanks, got mine from these guys, bargain! Just need to find a use for it now LOL!

[NP99]

Thanks, got mine from these guys, bargain! Just need to find a use for it now LOL!

Much better than the $80 odd

[mudski]

Thanks, got mine from these guys, bargain! Just need to find a use for it now LOL!
How long did you have to wait for delivery. I ordered mine on the 6th and its still not here. One thing i have noticed that they never sent a confirmation email and my email addy I used they don't recognize now.

[ShaunM]

How long did you have to wait for delivery. I ordered mine on the 6th and its still not here. One thing i have noticed that they never sent a confirmation email and my email addy I used they don't recognize now.

I ordered mine and got a confirmation email on the 1st. It hasn't arrived yet. I sent them a message requesting an ETA earlier tonight.

[Woof]

From memory mine took about 2 weeks, yes get in touch with them for sure

[threedogs]

Had to go back through this thread but mine only took 5-6 days,
contact them for sure.

[mudski]

Hmm. Can somebody tell me the name of the company who debited the fund from you on their bank statement? PM me with this if you wish. As I recieved no email conformation and my email addy no longer exists on their website I am thinking maybe I got it from somewhere else. But I was charged $26 on the day I ordered it from my CC account. I just need to confirm this part...But I do remember going on their website as I found it strange that I didn't need to create an account, Just order it, fill in your details on their website and pay for it...
Thanks.

[threedogs]

mine was paypal.
Plus has anyone done the wiring upgrade yet ,[DIY]

[janderson]

I did mine with PayPal to. It came from big pond shopping on ebay, $26. Was delivered in 3 or 4 days. I haven't done the wiring upgrade, used it heaps with no problems.

[Woof]

Hmm. Can somebody tell me the name of the company who debited the fund from you on their bank statement? PM me with this if you wish. As I recieved no email conformation and my email addy no longer exists on their website I am thinking maybe I got it from somewhere else. But I was charged $26 on the day I ordered it from my CC account. I just need to confirm this part...But I do remember going on their website as I found it strange that I didn't need to create an account, Just order it, fill in your details on their website and pay for it...
Thanks.

Here you go mate, DEALSA PTY LTD INGLEBURN AUS

[mudski]

Here you go mate, DEALSA PTY LTD INGLEBURN AUS
Thank you. Thats the company who took the money.

Just to be sure is was here where you got it from?
http://www.yourchoyceshop.com.au/buy/12v-dc-portable-stove-82516

[Woof]

Thank you. Thats the company who took the money.

Just to be sure is was here where you got it from?
http://www.yourchoyceshop.com.au/buy/12v-dc-portable-stove-82516

That's it mate

[jack]

Hi Mudski,

Got mine from them and took about 5 days max.
27 Apr 2013 DEALSA PTY LTD INGLEBURN -$26.00
Paid direct with credit card.

[ShaunM]

How long did you have to wait for delivery. I ordered mine on the 6th and its still not here. One thing i have noticed that they never sent a confirmation email and my email addy I used they don't recognize now.

Has yours turned up yet Mudski? I still haven't received mine despite several emails with Dealsdirect (who i found run the yourchoyceshop site).

[threedogs]

Gee thats way too long, does PayPal cover that or have you done your dough,??

[Bloodyaussie]

I got mine 4 or more weeks ago and only plugged it in last weekend.... leads did not get hot at all and I had it on for 4 hours.

I still have some learning to do on how to heat a good meat pie?

[mudski]

Has yours turned up yet Mudski? I still haven't received mine despite several emails with Dealsdirect (who i found run the yourchoyceshop site).
Nup. Considered it gone. I contacted them, even though they have taken the money from my account, they said they need proof as they have no records of me purchasing it. What, your company name on my bank statement is not proof?

[threedogs]

Only small amount ,but not the point if in Aust put the ombudsman on them.
Rip off 100 customers thats $2600 easy money in anyones book

[Woof]

Nup. Considered it gone. I contacted them, even though they have taken the money from my account, they said they need proof as they have no records of me purchasing it. What, your company name on my bank statement is not proof?

That sucks mate, don't leave it............report them to Consumer affairs or Dept of Fair Trading, it is the principal of it all

[Winnie]

I got mine 4 or more weeks ago and only plugged it in last weekend.... leads did not get hot at all and I had it on for 4 hours.

I still have some learning to do on how to heat a good meat pie?

Open the lid every few minutes to let out the steam or it will be soggy. Turn the pie over every few minutes too. I had mini chicken Kievs on my trip which was amazing!

If you're happy and you know it tap a post!

[NP99]

Did the out standing orders arrive guys?

[ShaunM]

Mine never came. I ended up getting my money refunded though. I've since bought a Travel Buddy and love it.

[Clunk]

Open the lid every few minutes to let out the steam or it will be soggy. Turn the pie over every few minutes too. I had mini chicken Kievs on my trip which was amazing!

If you're happy and you know it tap a post!

But doesn't that defeat the purpose of switching them on, plonking the food in and leaving it until ready?

[taslucas]

I got mine 4 or more weeks ago and only plugged it in last weekend.... leads did not get hot at all and I had it on for 4 hours.

I still have some learning to do on how to heat a good meat pie?

and you call yourself a bloody aussie!

[Bloodyaussie]

You bored mate.....??

[janderson]

But doesn't that defeat the purpose of switching them on, plonking the food in and leaving it until ready?

I wrap the pies in foil, (spray foil with oil spray to stop sticking) place in oven top down for 1/2 hour. Turn over for another 1/2 hour to 1 hour. Doesn't go soggy at all.

[Bloodyaussie]

My pies are never soggy after I learnt to rotate and also open the lid every now and then....

Toasted ham and cheese sandwiches are the best!!

[megatexture]

I wrap the pies in foil, (spray foil with oil spray to stop sticking) place in oven top down for 1/2 hour. Turn over for another 1/2 hour to 1 hour. Doesn't go soggy at all.

After 1.5 hrs at 150 degrees nothing will be soggy lol

[rafa]

[QUOTE=Winnie;366415]Little bit of water in the bottom and they steamed nicely.

Winnie, were the dim sims sitting in water? how much is a little a bit and how long you cook em for?

what else have you cooked in them?

Marty

[Winnie]

Yeah they did sit in the water, just fill it up about 1cm full of water and cooked for about 20 minutes, but I put boiling water in to start with and they would have been ready long before then but I did not check.