4 inch lift problem. Help asap!

[BLKWDW]

Hey lads i need some help. i recently installed a 4 inch suspension stuff lift in my gq and am now having problems with the steering arm hitting the panhard rod bolt to the point where it has gouged it out. i just had it at a suspension place to get a wheel alignment when they noticed it. They say the diff is out of alignment. Was told to get caster correction bushes to correct it but i bought drop boxes in the kit and thought these were supposed to adjust it.

Whats wrong with it as i need it ready buy next weekend to go away for xmas. I was supposed to take it out this weekend to sort out any other problems i may get from it but didnt even make it that far.

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i87/vswgn/4wd/20121211_151724.jpg
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i87/vswgn/4wd/20121211_151835.jpg
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i87/vswgn/4wd/20121211_151901.jpg

[Ben-e-boy]

mine does that but it only hits when right hand down and full compresion.
do you have drop boxes?
do you have radius arm spacers?

[nissannewby]

Can you get a photo from the front showing it all sitting in situ?

[BLKWDW]

Yes i have drop boxes and no i dont have radius arm spacers. Mine is hitting like that under normal driving u can also see the coils arnt straight.
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i87/vswgn/4wd/20121211_155820.jpg
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i87/vswgn/4wd/20121211_155834.jpg

[MudRunnerTD]

Can i see a side pic of your Drop Boxes please mate and also a pic of the damage on the back of the drag link where that gouge was done?

Your springs have got a fair bit of bend in them and it seems like the setup is not right. It is like you have fitted radius arm spacers AND Drop Boxes?? As asked above. I note that this is not so but something is amiss.

[MudRunnerTD]

That damage could only be happening at Full Lock?? Surely?? That must be when you have full lock and the swivel hub is close and the swivel hub / Drag link mount is hitting??? Must be as i cant imagine anything else getting close?? It is certainly not being caused in a straight line as the drag link passes the panard of your steering dampener would be destroyed! its between these two elements.

Do you have the steering lock limiting nuts still in the back of your swivel hubs?

[MudRunnerTD]

where are you located mate?

[MudRunnerTD]

Note also you should turn your steering dampener around as it will fill with water and sand and mud and stuff!!!

[BLKWDW]

Can i see a side pic of your Drop Boxes please mate and also a pic of the damage on the back of the drag link where that gouge was done?

Your springs have got a fair bit of bend in them and it seems like the setup is not right. It is like you have fitted radius arm spacers AND Drop Boxes?? As asked above. I note that this is not so but something is amiss.

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i87/vswgn/20121211_162128.jpg
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i87/vswgn/20121211_162138.jpg
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i87/vswgn/20121211_162335.jpg
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i87/vswgn/20121211_162343.jpg
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i87/vswgn/20121211_162233.jpg


That damage could only be happening at Full Lock?? Surely?? That must be when you have full lock and the swivel hub is close and the swivel hub / Drag link mount is hitting??? Must be as i cant imagine anything else getting close?? It is certainly not being caused in a straight line as the drag link passes the panard of your steering dampener would be destroyed! its between these two elements.

Do you have the steering lock limiting nuts still in the back of your swivel hubs?

What nuts would they be?


where are you located mate?

Cowra NSW (hr west of bathurst)


Note also you should turn your steering dampener around as it will fill with water and sand and mud and stuff!!!

Will do

[MudRunnerTD]

http://nissanpatrol.com.au/images/Screenshot2012-12-11at45219PM.png


Labelled "Lock Nut" in the bottom pic. That is the steering lock limiter.

[BLKWDW]

I still have that

[MudRunnerTD]

Take your drag link off and invert it end for end and it will swap to the outside..... See my pic. Excuse the mud!!

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[BLKWDW]

That still doesnt fix the springs though

[MudRunnerTD]

no but will stop the damage.

Are you running standard Nissan Rubber bushes in your radius arms?

Something is odd there.

Mine looked like that when i first did my lift but i mistakenly fitted the drop boxes and the spacers together. I removed the spacers and it sorted it out.

Have you called Shane from Suspension Stuff? send him the pic of your spring. Maybe they supplied the wrong Drop Boxes but i doubt it....

[BLKWDW]

I guess so i havnt replaced them. I'm waiting for him to call back.

[BLKWDW]

Is the bolt for the drop box to chassis in the right way?

[BLKWDW]

I can fit my finger in between the drop boxes and the chassis is this right?

[BLKWDW]

If you have a look at the way mine bolts in and the way this says you should ( http://www.superiorengineering.com.au/files/File/DROP+BOX+INSTRUCTIONS.pdf )
it looks different to the way mine is.

[MudRunnerTD]

The top mount of the drop box should be hard against the factory radius mount on the chassis. It mounts in its place and moves the mount down to the new position.

Did you slot out your chassis as per instructions to allow it to bolt flush? If not then there is the missing 15mm.

Sorry I can't open that link on my iPhone.

[BLKWDW]

I didnt fit the kit i had a shop do it. there is easy a 15-20mm gap between the drop box and radius arm. It has been cut but when i stick my finger inbetween the box chassis there is a washer or something stopping it.

[MudRunnerTD]

Can you get a pic of that? I think they are on wrong. The come with aluminium bushes to suit the chassis mount and I think they have them on backwards mate. That will make them like a radius arm spacer and that is how your springs present

[nissannewby]

Yeah there is a boss there where the mushroom style bushes would normally sit in that would prob give you a gap of about 10mm or so.

[nissannewby]

Im with mudrunner the drop boxes dont look to be on right. Do the cover the hole in the bottom of the chassis rail that you can normally see the radius arm nut in?

[BLKWDW]

What do u mean. All i know is they dont sit flush on the chassis rail where the radius arm use to bolt to.

[BLKWDW]

it sits against this ring here which sticks out a touch of the chassis. from what i can see also the cut is only 60mm deep but it should be 65 deep would this make any difference. It still doesnt touch the chassis except for that circle part.

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i87/vswgn/4wd/20121211_192617.jpg

[BigRAWesty]

Did you have this issue before fitting drop boxes?
Did you use the same bushes?
If you didn't fit it I'd be taking it back and let them deal with it..

Kallen Westbrook
Owner of
Westy's Accessories (http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?15134-Westy-s-Accessories.-A-small-back-yard-builder.)

[NissanGQ4.2]

I still have that

Are the lock nuts still straight, one of my lock nuts got bent somewhere along the line and it caused my tyre 2 scrub on my radius arm at full lock

And x2 with Kallen, if a shop done your suspension lift install its there problem 2 sort it out, not yours

[BLKWDW]

Alright car is back down the suspension shop as of yesterday so fingers crossed theyll have it sorted by monday as i told him it needs to be done or i'll go elsewhere.

[macca86]

Hope you haven't paid them or get money back for a poor job

[happygu]

Your front diff is pushed too far forward.

There are a couple of pics where it looks quite obvious. Once the drop boxes are installed correctly, it should elimnate this problem.

Mic