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Maxhead
17th September 2012, 07:45 AM
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threedogs
17th September 2012, 07:50 AM
Eastern wheel works do a mean steel rim, thicker than aftermarket off the shelf jobs, Pricey but great looking rim.
10mm 5 spoke style. were around $190 a corner bare, can powder coat any colour you like very cheap, PM if interested

taslucas
17th September 2012, 07:59 AM
Heres mine. 15" x 8" Dynamica. I think they are aron $80-$95.
(ps: excuse the embarassing snorkel, its long gone now)

Bigrig
17th September 2012, 08:08 AM
Looking at some new tyres for my GU and am thinking of going to a black rim.

There's a few patterns out there with some poxy ones as well...hahaja

There's pics scattered in different threads which is hard to compare.

If you have some black wheels could you please post some pictures for us to have a look at
Brand and price if possible would be nice

Cheers





........... On the move

Plenty of photos and vids of mine in my build thread boss, but just coz you're lazy, some more attached!! lol

they're King rims 15x8". Got a weight rating of 1320kg per wheel so nice and strong, but still repairable out bush.

Tyres? Lordy ... I'm supremely happy with the Maxxis Bighorn (as a muddy), but was just as happy with the Mickey T ATZ 4 Rib as a compromise road and off road tyre ...

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2012/09/68.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2012/09/69.jpg

Winnie
17th September 2012, 08:21 AM
Heres mine. 15" x 8" Dynamica. I think they are aron $80-$95.
(ps: excuse the embarassing snorkel, its long gone now)

I'd be more worried about that embarrassing dog!

Mine are 15x8 Gecko rims. Paid $60 for them at show price. Exactly the same as Dynamics.

Tip tap tippity tip tappity tap tap ding dong tipsy topsy wopsy mopsy tippy tap tap tipitty wee

nissannewby
17th September 2012, 08:51 AM
These are mine. Allied Thunder Black 1320kg rated $225 a wheel.

http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh493/nissannewby/5506b32d.jpg

nissannewby
17th September 2012, 09:25 AM
Heres another one. Gives a little better look at what they are.

http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh493/nissannewby/8b48b2d7.jpg

threedogs
17th September 2012, 11:15 AM
Funny looking rabbits in Tassie, lol, , , and you said excuse the snorkel

Have you looked at the FAUX bead lock style mainly alloy but look trick.
The ones on Newbys ute are good looking jobs too.
not sure how they'd handle rocky tracks all the time so really depends what you want'
bushability [repairable] or as I would call them TOWN rims?? What are you after?

MudRunnerTD
17th September 2012, 11:16 AM
here are a couple of my GUIV

http://nissanpatrol.com.au/images/GU%20IV/IMG_0420-1.jpg

Rockcrawler Black 16x8 Neg 6 offset

http://nissanpatrol.com.au/images/GU%20IV/IMG_0437.jpg

http://nissanpatrol.com.au/images/GU%20IV/IMG_0436.jpg

No lift on car in these pics and 285/75/16s

http://nissanpatrol.com.au/images/GU%20IV/IMG_0435.jpg

http://nissanpatrol.com.au/images/GU%20IV/IMG_0433.jpg

No Lift

http://nissanpatrol.com.au/images/GU%20IV/IMG_0599.jpg

3" Lift and Working ;) (love this pic ;) )

http://nissanpatrol.com.au/images/GU%20IV/DSC_5056_2.jpg?t=1293705352

if you want any others Chris just yell out mate as my GUIV still sits on these rims today. Really like them.

threedogs
17th September 2012, 12:23 PM
Why not powder coat what you have I did,colour is charcoal metalic
Ti mag is same colour and off my camper

Ben-e-boy
17th September 2012, 12:30 PM
here is mine 15x10 -44 offset dynamica

Maxhead
17th September 2012, 01:39 PM
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threedogs
17th September 2012, 01:51 PM
Thats what I have the powder coated OE mags for TOWN fitted with Cooper ATRs 285s
and 16x8 king rims I think with 305 x70x16 MTZs

TimE
17th September 2012, 03:29 PM
16 X 8 Kings, Aussie made at around $110 per wheel

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a44/timber93au/DSC03525edited.jpg

healy
17th September 2012, 03:35 PM
I'd be more worried about that embarrassing dog!

Mine are 15x8 Gecko rims. Paid $60 for them at show price. Exactly the same as Dynamics.

Tip tap tippity tip tappity tap tap ding dong tipsy topsy wopsy mopsy tippy tap tap tipitty wee
Yeah I've got these same rims with 35x 12.5 bighorns on and they look sick I think anyway

GU CAMPER
18th September 2012, 02:22 PM
I got 16x8 infinity wheels 1300 kg20235
20236
With 315/75R16 muddies

Irvs
18th September 2012, 08:04 PM
Lucas, never have I seen someone use aggy pipe as a snorkel, hahaha.

I've got GU steelies painted matt black with kill rust that I picked up for 200 bucks with some dead tyres on. No photos as I haven't got tyres fitted to them yet.

Dark 1
18th September 2012, 08:20 PM
I really like the rock crawler rims that MudrunnerTD has & are thinking of those for our ride.

taslucas
18th September 2012, 09:47 PM
Lucas, never have I seen someone use aggy pipe as a snorkel, hahaha.

I've got GU steelies painted matt black with kill rust that I picked up for 200 bucks with some dead tyres on. No photos as I haven't got tyres fitted to them yet.

Me neither! I bought it like that!!

its better now: http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?8643-Taslucas-s-TB42-Ti/page16

Lawrence
19th September 2012, 06:01 AM
I have a set of US rims. They look a lot like the rockcrawler. Had to shave out the middle though to fit as they were just 108 mm. had a 6mm negative offset as well

Lawrence
19th September 2012, 06:13 AM
With Us rims

Maxhead
10th October 2012, 11:37 AM
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Winnie
10th October 2012, 12:00 PM
Like the look of those rims Kris! Would look killer with the KM2s, very jealous lol

hugebbq
10th October 2012, 04:19 PM
same brand as mudrunner, Pro comp but series 98 with round holes.

The BigFella
10th October 2012, 06:18 PM
Thanks everyone for the pics.

Just ordered some king rims with BF Goodrich MT KM2's.....should have them on tomorrow

http://www.kingwheels.com.au/image/cache/data/steel%20black-420x420.jpg


pure Patrol Porn,,,,,,,,,,,

megatexture
10th October 2012, 08:12 PM
nice choice same ones ive got and are good value never had any issues with them after having a bad run with dynamica

Ben89
11th October 2012, 08:13 PM
Plenty of photos and vids of mine in my build thread boss, but just coz you're lazy, some more attached!! lol

they're King rims 15x8". Got a weight rating of 1320kg per wheel so nice and strong, but still repairable out bush.

Tyres? Lordy ... I'm supremely happy with the Maxxis Bighorn (as a muddy), but was just as happy with the Mickey T ATZ 4 Rib as a compromise road and off road tyre ...

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2012/09/68.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2012/09/69.jpg



/Drool!!! I want those rims aswell

MEGOMONSTER
16th May 2013, 12:27 AM
How is this for pricing?
http://bit.ly/142DTuf
And -44 to much off set for GU8?

MEGOMONSTER
16th May 2013, 12:33 AM
Never mind, I just read through this thread.
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?t=13262

Cuppa
17th May 2013, 09:23 PM
I got quoted the following prices this morning. Wheels are neg 13 offset.

I'm favouring the Dynamic round hole wheels at the moment.

Alitis007
17th May 2013, 11:25 PM
I got quoted the following prices this morning. Wheels are neg 13 offset.

I'm favouring the Dynamic round hole wheels at the moment.

I like those dynamic wheels mate who sells them?? I was chasing up some rims today and was trying to get them direct and cut out the middle man, 1 manufacturer came to the party the other will need some more time i think..

megatexture
17th May 2013, 11:59 PM
I've cracked the welds on two dynamic rims previously, the only way I knew was it caused the tyre to go flat! But I'd have rather that than loosing a tyre that's for sure.
both were replaced and one was even outside of warranty period so good service but I got rid of them as I had no confidence in them.

Alitis007
18th May 2013, 09:21 AM
Has any one used the CSA Ranger steel rims? And if so are they any good??

Cuppa
18th May 2013, 09:48 AM
I like those dynamic wheels mate who sells them?? I was chasing up some rims today and was trying to get them direct and cut out the middle man, 1 manufacturer came to the party the other will need some more time i think..

The quote I got was from our local Tyrepower.

Megatexture, just when I think I'm arriving at a decision, you manage to throw it all up in the air again! Lol. Which Dynamic wheels did you have & what sort of usage? As far as looks go I probably prefer the slightly more open triangular cutouts of the ROH or Kings, but was heading the Dynamic round hole way only because I thought that the round hole design might be a bit stronger (greater metal to hole ratio, & no 'corners' in the holes possibly making cracks less likely to start?). But it sounds like yours cracked on the rim section rather than the wheel centre.
I would've considered the Pro Comp wheels too, but their load rating is too low compared to the others (under 1000kg whilst the others are 1200kg).

Cuppa

Cuppa
18th May 2013, 09:54 AM
Alitis, if the CSA ranger wheels (Mullins) were available in the size I need (16 x 8 neg 13mm offset) I'd go with them as they have a higher load rating than any others I've seen (1500kg) , but unfortunately not available in this offset. Neg 26mm was the closest option I think.

Cuppa

benno77gu
18th May 2013, 10:05 AM
hi fellas im keen on the round hole rims in cuppas pic i have 285 75 16 big horns ready to go, what off set rims would be best, its for an 01 gu wagon ,thanks fellas

Alitis007
18th May 2013, 10:17 AM
In the catalogue they have 0, 20 ,26
http://www.csadirect.com.au/fitment-guide-steel.asp?DataBankCat1Id=3
But i did find one to suit a hilux pos 13 but i'm not sure if the center hole diameter is big enough and only in 16x7
29391
I'll keep looking thru it tho Cuppa, the problem is our PCS is 138.7 and the other 16x8 neg 13 wheels all have a 150.9 PCD i'll keep you posted mate..

Alitis007
18th May 2013, 10:20 AM
hi fellas im keen on the round hole rims in cuppas pic i have 285 75 16 big horns ready to go, what off set rims would be best, its for an 01 gu wagon ,thanks fellas

I'm trying on sat of 285 75 16 with a neg13 offset and i'm stock hight on my 99 trol and i don't rub but i'll need to remove my mudflaps so i don't loose them lol

Alitis007
18th May 2013, 10:24 AM
In the catalogue they have 0, 20 ,26
http://www.csadirect.com.au/fitment-guide-steel.asp?DataBankCat1Id=3
But i did find one to suit a hilux pos 13 but i'm not sure if the center hole diameter is big enough and only in 16x7
29391
I'll keep looking thru it tho Cuppa, the problem is our PCS is 138.7 and the other 16x8 neg 13 wheels all have a 150.9 PCD i'll keep you posted mate..

Forget that lol i just realized its a pos off set

nissannewby
18th May 2013, 11:14 AM
Alitis, if the CSA ranger wheels (Mullins) were available in the size I need (16 x 8 neg 13mm offset) I'd go with them as they have a higher load rating than any others I've seen (1500kg) , but unfortunately not available in this offset. Neg 26mm was the closest option I think.

Cuppa

Have you had a look at allied wheels cuppa?

vfamily
18th May 2013, 11:51 AM
how about some black alloys

Alitis007
18th May 2013, 11:52 AM
Considering there is three of us looking for rims and thats potentially 15 rims and the fact that ROH and Mullins / CSA is only 15 mins away from me if we agree on a set we like i could possibly try and get a wholesale price ??

Alitis007
18th May 2013, 11:54 AM
I also found this aswell
29397

Cuppa
18th May 2013, 12:09 PM
Have you had a look at allied wheels cuppa?

I did briefly, but couldn't see any steel wheels, all alloys? There was one which *might* be steel (they don't say) but it had imitation bead lock on it which is unnecessarily flashy for my tastes. However I have just sent them an email to see if they do a steelie, & if so what it's load rating is.

Cuppa

Cuppa
18th May 2013, 12:11 PM
I also found this aswell
29397

Yep, that's what I saw & got quite excited about the higher load rating. However I wrote to them to see if they could offer any with the neg 13 offset & got the answer saying no.

Cuppa

Cuppa
18th May 2013, 12:14 PM
Considering there is three of us looking for rims and thats potentially 15 rims and the fact that ROH and Mullins / CSA is only 15 mins away from me if we agree on a set we like i could possibly try and get a wholesale price ??

Worth checking out. I want 6, but I doubt Mullins are going to help, but if they were prepared to do us a batch with the right offset it'd be great.

Cuppa

PS.
ANYONE ELSE CURRENTLY LOOKING FOR BLACK STEEL WHEELS? Now might be the time to say so! :).

Winnie
18th May 2013, 12:15 PM
But they have a neg 14.

If you're happy and you know it tap a post!

Alitis007
18th May 2013, 12:16 PM
Cuppa it looks like wheels with a high load rating either have no or pos offset, probably to do with how the weight distribution works across the rim. When i get a chance i'll have a look at my factory alloys and have a look at their offset. What size tyre are you going to run ??

Alitis007
18th May 2013, 12:17 PM
But they have a neg 14.

If you're happy and you know it tap a post!

Thats a 5 stud mate

Cuppa
18th May 2013, 01:13 PM
Cuppa it looks like wheels with a high load rating either have no or pos offset, probably to do with how the weight distribution works across the rim. When i get a chance i'll have a look at my factory alloys and have a look at their offset. What size tyre are you going to run ??

There is a Mullins 16x 8 1500kg one with a neg 28mm, so I'm not sure that the weight distribution theory holds.
I'm going to run 265/75LT tyres.

Cuppa

Edit: your offset requirement may be different to mine? I have a leaf rear end.

happygu
18th May 2013, 01:22 PM
how about some black alloys

I like....how much

Mic

Alitis007
18th May 2013, 01:30 PM
Your right mate, its strange why they are mainly pos tho..

I just looked at my factory alloys and they are a pos 10 offset, i even measured to confirm. They are wrapped with 265 70 16, so would it be safe to say they you could possibly get away with a 0 offset if we cant get a high load rated rim ??

vfamily
18th May 2013, 03:50 PM
not sure I paid $1550 for a set of 285 75 16 km2s fitted to these alloys (ballistic hyjaks 16x8 neg 6 offset)

vfamily
18th May 2013, 03:55 PM
too many beers I also got a 5 rim which they charged me $125 for, they were pretty much the same price as steel wheels but I liked the idea of a lighter wheel, as far as durability goes only time will tell, they are load rated to 2500lbs


not sure I paid $1550 for a set of 285 75 16 km2s fitted to these alloys (ballistic hyjaks 16x8 neg 6 offset)

MudRunnerTD
18th May 2013, 04:25 PM
here are a couple of my GUIV

http://nissanpatrol.com.au/images/GU%20IV/IMG_0420-1.jpg

Rockcrawler Black 16x8 Neg 6 offset

http://nissanpatrol.com.au/images/GU%20IV/IMG_0437.jpg

http://nissanpatrol.com.au/images/GU%20IV/IMG_0436.jpg

No lift on car in these pics and 285/75/16s

http://nissanpatrol.com.au/images/GU%20IV/IMG_0435.jpg

http://nissanpatrol.com.au/images/GU%20IV/IMG_0433.jpg

No Lift

http://nissanpatrol.com.au/images/GU%20IV/IMG_0599.jpg

3" Lift and Working ;) (love this pic ;) )

http://nissanpatrol.com.au/images/GU%20IV/DSC_5056_2.jpg?t=1293705352

if you want any others Chris just yell out mate as my GUIV still sits on these rims today. Really like them.

Factory offset is Positive 10. My rims above are Rockcrawler Neg 6 16 x 8 and really please with them and how they look. Like the D shape hole more than the round ole to be honest.

Alitis007
18th May 2013, 04:35 PM
Factory offset is Positive 10. My rims above are Rockcrawler Neg 6 16 x 8 and really please with them and how they look. Like the D shape hole more than the round ole to be honest.

Darren do you remember the offset you told me at Tallarook mate coz for the life of me i cant remember lol

MudRunnerTD
18th May 2013, 05:35 PM
Darren do you remember the offset you told me at Tallarook mate coz for the life of me i cant remember lol

Anywhere from Neg 6 as above to maybe Neg13 but you can see by my along the side pics that any more and you will have to add flexi flares. They look average on a GU.

TimE
18th May 2013, 05:45 PM
Me I have gone back the other way.

After running the 16X8 black Kings rims for the past 5 years I have gone back to my 17" alloys for the GU IV and Kimberley Kamper. The offset on the Kings (not sure what they where) resulted in the tyres being on the limit of the flares on the GU, and just sticking out a wee bit from the guards on the Kamper, resulted in a bit of stone chip damage to both.

Just fitted them up with 285/70/17 MT ATZ 4 ribs, pacemaker took a hit with the bill for 8 tyres (6 on the Patrol, 2 on the Kamper), tyres are about $100 dearer on the 17" wheels, but I'm happy with the "original" new look. Must take some picks and post them up on my "home" page.

happygu
18th May 2013, 05:45 PM
too many beers I also got a 5 rim which they charged me $125 for, they were pretty much the same price as steel wheels but I liked the idea of a lighter wheel, as far as durability goes only time will tell, they are load rated to 2500lbs

At $125 a rim...point me in the right direction as that sounds pretty good....although I was looking for 17's, and that will add a bit extra for sure.

Mic

MudRunnerTD
18th May 2013, 05:55 PM
At $125 a rim...point me in the right direction as that sounds pretty good....although I was looking for 17's, and that will add a bit extra for sure.

Mic


Those Rockcrawlers were only around $120 a rim!

Alitis007
18th May 2013, 06:00 PM
Anywhere from Neg 6 as above to maybe Neg13 but you can see by my along the side pics that any more and you will have to add flexi flares. They look average on a GU.

Nah the wheels i had on where a neg13 and sat right on the edge of the flares, haven't got any real good pics tho, but heres one anyway
29418

MudRunnerTD
18th May 2013, 06:46 PM
That looks good mate other than the Bling on the front!!

Alitis007
18th May 2013, 06:58 PM
Its street wear mate lol

Alitis007
18th May 2013, 08:57 PM
Found another manufacturer in QLD
29421
I really like the Brumby coz it looks like center line convo pro's and the Spin FXand it looks promising coz on the fitment guid it says 0 - 20neg so it could mean 0 to 20??
29422
I'll call them on monday.

Apart from Cuppa and i, who else is interested in getting wheels?? The more we get the easier it will be to get wholesale price plus we might get them at a better rate aswell???

Cuppa
18th May 2013, 09:07 PM
I'll call them on monday.



Ask for the load rating too please.

Cuppa

Alitis007
18th May 2013, 09:15 PM
Ask for the load rating too please.

Cuppa
That was one of the reasons why i was going to call mate, the other was if we could get the chrome ones powder coated instead if they made them in house.

Anything else??

vfamily
18th May 2013, 09:35 PM
Hi PM sent


At $125 a rim...point me in the right direction as that sounds pretty good....although I was looking for 17's, and that will add a bit extra for sure.

Mic

Cuppa
18th May 2013, 09:47 PM
Anything else??

I'm guessing that the chart means 0mm AND 25Neg offsets, as opposed to anything in between those two figures, but we'll wait & see. Not sure how I feel about Infinity wheels at the moment. From their website, although not certain, I get the impression they just import the wheels & re-sell them. I may be wrong about that, but would prefer to buy from the people who make them. So can you also ask where they are made?
In the meantime someone is chasing a package price on ROH wheels plus tyres for me
I've also read that King wheels have a higher load rating than the ROH, (1320kg vs 1200kg) but as yet have found no confirmation on this. I'll try to find out on Monday (unless anyone here knows?). They don't list an email, so I'll give a local tyre joint a call.

Cuppa

Alitis007
18th May 2013, 09:59 PM
So far Cuppa i have the contact details of Mullins, ROH and Infinity i'll see if i can find one for Kings. I know ROH are made in aus ( i spoke to them on friday) i should have some answers on monday for you aswell.

I can generally deal with manufacturers being a mechanic and using my works ABN but they want bulk orders so quantity is our leverage with them, between us two we've got 11 but see how we go.

Alitis007
18th May 2013, 10:11 PM
Just one more thing, the King Terra and Mullins Ranger look alot alike mate even to the color of the pin striping around the edge so they might actually be made by the same place??

GU CAMPER
19th May 2013, 12:08 PM
I have just ordered some infinty wheels, got the coyote black with white pinstripe 16x8 25N offset ( they only come in 25N and O offset )

They were $110 each delivered

Got them from All Wheels

Thinking of buying some more black rims in 13N offset to stick some 265/75R16 BFG All Terrains on for daily driving, so will watch this thread for prices, may be interested in getting a bulk buy

Cheers Andy

Alitis007
19th May 2013, 12:15 PM
Do you know if they are made in house GU CAMPER???

GU CAMPER
19th May 2013, 12:27 PM
Do you know if they are made in house GU CAMPER???

Not Sure. The phone number I called All Wheels on was 02 8850 7841

Cheers Andy

menace 2
19th May 2013, 01:24 PM
Heres another one. Gives a little better look at what they are.

http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh493/nissannewby/8b48b2d7.jpg

good looking rims mate ...

Cuppa
19th May 2013, 01:58 PM
good looking rims mate ...

Yes they are quite snazzy, presumably alloys NN?
Cuppa

bnicklin
19th May 2013, 04:42 PM
29434
I have black mickey t side biters. 320 a rim

Cuppa
20th May 2013, 01:35 PM
Have had an email back from Allied Wheels. they only do alloys, no steel.

I also phoned the King wheels Vic distributor to find out the load rating of their steel (Terra) wheels. 1200kg same as the ROH. I asked about any higher ratings for mine spec etc & he told me the only way they can do a higher rating is to go up to 17" where they get rated for 1400kg.

So it seems, for me at least as I'm unwilling to fork out for custom made wheels, it comes down to only two manufacturers, ROH & King ...... Unless George gets any different info today, which I'm not optimistic about. As far as choosing between King & ROH .... For me it's six of one and half a dozen of the other, & will likely come down to the cost & convenience factors.
Cuppa

Alitis007
20th May 2013, 02:25 PM
Just got off the phone with Infinity wheels Cuppa and the Coyote black or white is rated to 1450kg and are imported. Price was 110 plus delivery as a rough price. Next CSA!!

Alitis007
20th May 2013, 02:26 PM
Oh they only have 0 and neg20 off set

Alitis007
20th May 2013, 02:40 PM
Apparently no wheels are made in aus, according to Mullins wheels Cuppa and what they list ( 28neg 0 25pos) is how they come from overseas. They will give them to me for $90 each. Now ROH

Cuppa
20th May 2013, 02:47 PM
I contacted Gecko, just to cover all bases. Made in China, rated to max 1250kg.

Cuppa

Alitis007
20th May 2013, 02:49 PM
ROH 16 x 8 n13, 1200kg $85.

I'm keen to get some wheels this week or next week. So what do you rekon ???

Alitis007
20th May 2013, 02:52 PM
I contacted Gecko, just to cover all bases. Made in China, rated to max 1250kg.

Cuppa

The 2 highest is Mullins and Infinity, like i said i'm easy either way mate so its up to you??

Alitis007
20th May 2013, 02:53 PM
Mullins neg 28 only comes in white aswell

Bloodyaussie
20th May 2013, 03:37 PM
Sorry ian I have not had a chance yet as I have been flat out, I will send my guy a text when I get home with what you asked me and see what price he can do the wheels and tyres for

Beni C
20th May 2013, 03:54 PM
I am looking at getting some wheels, still deciding on which way to go though. Would be looking at 6 all up (2 spares) but I am worried about weight being a factor with 1 spare sitting on the roof rack and one on the bar door. Not intersted at this stage in getting a rear bar with a wheel carrier.

So what do you guys reckon? My heart was set on a pair of King Steelies but now I am thinking alloys. I see some people even just hang on to the stock alloys, can you get a 33"s on the stock alloys??

Cuppa
20th May 2013, 04:12 PM
George & others,

Another potential option.

I just got off the phone to All Wheels (Sydney) where I was talking to a chap named 'AJ'. He may join the forum & post some info here later as I gave him this thread address. Seemed like a helpful chap.

My enquiry there was regarding the 2100kg load rated Mine spec wheels, which are only available in white, & in 16" x 7" (I had hoped they were available in 16 x 8 - something he says he gets asked for on a regular basis).

http://www.allwheels.com.au/product.php?productid=31076&cat=559&page=1

These normally retail for $190, but he said he would let us have them for around $150 each delivered to Dandenong if we bought the numbers we are talking about. He seemed quite understanding of the beneficial nature of 'looking after' folks on enthusiast forums.

I know 265/75's will fit onto a 7" rim, andother than not being able to go to a wider tyre later if wanted, I am uncertain what the implications of using the narrower rim with the 265/75's might be? (Would love advice on this - AJ said there are plenty of Prados around running 245's & 265's on 7 " rims).

He also talked about better deals still if we bought a tyre/rim package.

Not sure what it would cost to get the rims powder coated black? TD may advise.

Cuppa

Cuppa
20th May 2013, 04:18 PM
Sorry ian I have not had a chance yet as I have been flat out, I will send my guy a text when I get home with what you asked me and see what price he can do the wheels and tyres for

No worries Jonathan, I'm not in a rush, it's George who's keen to spend his money asap! ;) (Settle down George old bean). Mind you I expect the price he's been given on ROH's will take some beating.

Cuppa
ps. Check your email as well when you get home.

threedogs
20th May 2013, 04:19 PM
Nobody rang eastern wheel works they are made with 10mm hubs instead of 4-6 like most sunnies
any offset you want. plus you wont look like everyone else. If i wanted load carrying I ring them at the
drop of a hat

@ Cuppa should have read whole thread lol, looking around $15 a rim To powder coat.
If a heap from Melb get them done together I could see that coming down

FYI Prados are IFS rims ,as in widen inwards
@ George you going to run 2 sets like me????

Cuppa
20th May 2013, 04:47 PM
I am looking at getting some wheels, still deciding on which way to go though. Would be looking at 6 all up (2 spares) but I am worried about weight being a factor with 1 spare sitting on the roof rack and one on the bar door. Not intersted at this stage in getting a rear bar with a wheel carrier.

So what do you guys reckon? My heart was set on a pair of King Steelies but now I am thinking alloys. I see some people even just hang on to the stock alloys, can you get a 33"s on the stock alloys??

Hi Beni,
I've seen reference to past 'debates' on Alloy vs Steel, I suspect it's probably a ford/holden type thing with some folk arguing to justify their own purchases & it's probably not worth regurgitating them. At the end of the day it's your decision. From my perspective I'm only considering steel on the basis of cost & ability to repair out in the bush. Both types can get damaged, but I'm guessing that in the event of a 'get you back to civilisation' scenario following damage to a rim that I'd prefer a steel one which I could belt back into shape or get welded at a station. Whether this might ever be needed is a 64 thousand dollar question given the carrying of two spares.

What is the cost of alloys? I haven't even looked, but I'm guessing it would be at least 2 or 3 times the cost of steels. Adds up quickly when 6 are required.

No doubt that alloys are lighter which has several advantages, (especially for anyone with a dodgy back!).

I guess which you choose will probably be dictated by the depth of your wallet & where you intend to go. The rims I am wanting to replace are steel, chosen & used by Telstra almost exclusively on outback roads & tracks. I am guided by their choice in the belief that generally their choices were based upon a great deal of experience as to what worked/was cost effective, & what wasn't. I am confident that if they had thought alloys to be better , especially given the greater load carrying capacity of alloys, that they would have used them. I am changing because I want to run tubeless instead of the tubed I have on the split rims.

Cuppa

Bloodyaussie
20th May 2013, 05:14 PM
Just sent request off and should not be too long before I get an answer??

Bloodyaussie
20th May 2013, 05:33 PM
OK he just got back to me and said those tyres you mentioned Ian are way over priced for what you get and said he can get a tyre called the Black Lion that is hard wearing and has a very heavy load rating..

He said he can do 6 tyres and rims for $1600

GU CAMPER
20th May 2013, 05:38 PM
Oh they only have 0 and neg20 off set

Is that the infinity wheels. The coyote black that I ordered on Friday are 16x8 with negative 25 offset

Was told they also come in 0 offset


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Bloodyaussie
20th May 2013, 05:38 PM
29459
This is the pattern? ?

Beni C
20th May 2013, 06:09 PM
Thanks Cuppa, you are pretty much receproacting my thoughts.

If push comes to shove then I definatly want something thats going to be repairable out on the tracks, plus at the end of the day I think black steelies look the business!!!

Would be interesting though to wack a pair of steelies and alloys on the scales to see just how much of a weight difference there is.

Bloodyaussie
20th May 2013, 06:32 PM
Both bloody heavy!!!!!!!!!

Cuppa
20th May 2013, 06:37 PM
Black Lion Powercode BS80 (http://www.blackliontyre.eu/productlist.php?lang=EN&patid=343)

Thanks BA, $1600 for 6 wheels & tyres is a very attractive price, over $500 less than if I bought the ROH rims George has been quoted on & the Bridgestone D697's at my locally quoted price. That is a lot of savings but I reckon I might give it a miss. I may be crazy & missing out on a real bargain, but basically I'd rather buy tyres that I've heard of, & can get replacements for relatively easily in outback woop woop should the need ever arise. Thanks for checking it out though. Did he give a price on just the ROH rims at all?

Cuppa

Cuppa
20th May 2013, 06:43 PM
Would be interesting though to wack a pair of steelies and alloys on the scales to see just how much of a weight difference there is.

Other's will know, I'm only guessing, but I wouldn't be surprised if on a 16" rim & tyre combo that a fair bit more of the total weight would be the tyre, especially if running LT tyres.

Cuppa

Cuppa
20th May 2013, 07:22 PM
And just to throw more fat on the fire (& thinking aloud in case anyone should think I'm trying to contradict what they've already told me - I'm not, just trying to process 'new info') ...... a couple of the wheel places I've rung today have informed me that the stock Patrol 16x8 offset is Pos 10mm (as others here have said) & that to run 265's I should get a zero offset wheel, not a neg 13mm. I wish I didn't keep getting conflicting bloody info! I've had enough of it, & know that neg 13 will do the job 'cos I've seen 'em on Maccas truck, besides if they stick out a tad more than they really need to so what, doesn't really matter does it? Neg 13mm moves the wheel 23mm 'outward' rather than the 10mm 'outward' a zero offset would achieve. 10mm seems a bit too close If I went with zero & got rims & they rubbed I'd then be up for getting them machined & rewelded plus repainted which would not make me a happy chappy whereas having a little extra space between my tyres & the chassis does no harm.

SO....... George can the place you got quoted on the ROH's supply tyres too, & if so could they price a package deal on rims plus 265/75LT Bridgestone D697's (fitted & balanced if possible) or do you think i'd be better getting them fitted locally in case I get any post fitting 'wobble' problems?

Cuppa

Cuppa
20th May 2013, 08:37 PM
Nobody rang eastern wheel works they are made with 10mm hubs instead of 4-6 like most sunnies
any offset you want. plus you wont look like everyone else. If i wanted load carrying I ring them at the
drop of a hat


I did ring them TD, but seem to have 'lost' the response I thought I'd posted here (I know I wrote it, but perhaps I closed a window without actually posting it).
$340 per rim is out of my league unfortunately, no matter how good they are.
The bloke there seemed pretty good to talk to & even advised me that I'd be better off buying off the shelf if I could. He mentioned those 2100kg mine spec 16x7's I referred to earlier & reckoned I'd have no problem running 265/75's on them. He also said that he could change the offset in any wheels for $70 each.
When I told him I'd be running at close to 4 tonne, his view was that the 1200kg rated wheels like ROH & King should be quite adequate particularly as their rating allows for some leeway.

Cuppa

Eastern Wheel works 6 spoke 'Sunset Country' steel wheel

benno77gu
21st May 2013, 06:44 PM
And just to throw more fat on the fire (& thinking aloud in case anyone should think I'm trying to contradict what they've already told me - I'm not, just trying to process 'new info') ...... a couple of the wheel places I've rung today have informed me that the stock Patrol 16x8 offset is Pos 10mm (as others here have said) & that to run 265's I should get a zero offset wheel, not a neg 13mm. I wish I didn't keep getting conflicting bloody info! I've had enough of it, & know that neg 13 will do the job 'cos I've seen 'em on Maccas truck, besides if they stick out a tad more than they really need to so what, doesn't really matter does it? Neg 13mm moves the wheel 23mm 'outward' rather than the 10mm 'outward' a zero offset would achieve. 10mm seems a bit too close If I went with zero & got rims & they rubbed I'd then be up for getting them machined & rewelded plus repainted which would not make me a happy chappy whereas having a little extra space between my tyres & the chassis does no harm.

SO....... George can the place you got quoted on the ROH's supply tyres too, & if so could they price a package deal on rims plus 265/75LT Bridgestone D697's (fitted & balanced if possible) or do you think i'd be better getting them fitted locally in case I get any post fitting 'wobble' problems?

Cuppahi cuppa i measured my standard 16 x 8 gu rims today and i got positive 20mm

MudRunnerTD
21st May 2013, 06:45 PM
hi cuppa i measured my standard 16 x 8 gu rims today and i got positive 20mm

Hmmmm? i think that is not right mate, Positive 10 is factory offset.

benno77gu
21st May 2013, 07:24 PM
Hmmmm? i think that is not right mate, Positive 10 is factory offset.maybe measured wrong, straight edge across the rim front measured to the hub face and done the same at the back and got 20mm difference

Winnie
21st May 2013, 07:27 PM
Yeah, that would mean a pos 10 offset.

benno77gu
21st May 2013, 07:31 PM
Yeah, that would mean a pos 10 offset.confused how is so ?

Winnie
21st May 2013, 07:45 PM
You are taking 10mm from one side and adding it to the other.... sorta hard to explain with words.

MudRunnerTD
21st May 2013, 07:49 PM
The measurement should to the same face of the rim. From the front you have to measure through the centre hole to the mounting face.

Clunk
21st May 2013, 07:58 PM
Just found this old thread by MudrunnerTD might help with a few of the questions on measuring offset

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?t=6427

Don't slap it, tap it!!!!

benno77gu
21st May 2013, 08:04 PM
The measurement should to the same face of the rim. From the front you have to measure through the centre hole to the mounting face.

did that ended up with 20mm difference

Alitis007
21st May 2013, 08:22 PM
did that ended up with 20mm difference

Mate i measured my 16x8's on saturday and they are pos10, from the center 10mm forward.

Best and easiest way is from the back mark center (4" or 100mm) then with a flat edge on the back of the hub measure that to your center line and bobs your aunty. Not really rocket science lol

Anyway who wants wheels?? At this stage Cuppa and i are going to go with the ROH's but i'm waiting on an e mail from another supplier...

MudRunnerTD
21st May 2013, 08:31 PM
You are taking 10mm from one side and adding it to the other.... sorta hard to explain with words.


The measurement should to the same face of the rim. From the front you have to measure through the centre hole to the mounting face.


did that ended up with 20mm difference

Winnie is on the money mate. If you are 20mm out then 10mm of that belongs on each side of dead centre ;).

If you consider that as George said centre was 100mm then you have a 90mm on the front and a 110mm from the back. This is positive 10mm. 10mm from centre.

Hope that helps

Alitis007
21st May 2013, 08:35 PM
Mind you a rims width is measured from the inside of the bead, as i was told when i got my FR Simmons hand built....

Beni C
30th May 2013, 04:20 PM
Hey guys, can you tell me if these are the right spec for a 08 GU Patrol?

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/pcw-7069-6883/overview/

Alitis007
30th May 2013, 05:23 PM
I don't have the best reception ATM but if they are PCD 6/139.7 center bore 110.5mm and an offset between -13 to +10 your in!

Beni C
30th May 2013, 05:53 PM
All good except the centre bore!! Its only 80.77mm!!

Edit - Oh and offset is only -12.

MudRunnerTD
30th May 2013, 06:21 PM
The Offset would be fine but the centre bore would be No Good. You could get them machined on arrival if the bolt pattern was right though??

Alitis007
30th May 2013, 06:32 PM
PCD is fine 5.50" = 139.7mm but yeh the center bore is no good

Beni C
31st May 2013, 03:38 PM
Bummer, really like the look of em hey.

bowerbird
19th February 2015, 03:10 PM
Has anyone coated standard GU alloys (latest shape rim) just wondering what they would look like black?

Hodge
19th February 2015, 03:50 PM
Has anyone coated standard GU alloys (latest shape rim) just wondering what they would look like black?

Look good powder coated.



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Cuppa
19th February 2015, 04:18 PM
Whilst this thread is current again. I’m after 3 more ROH Blak Trak 16 x 8 neg 13mm offset in case anyone has some or knows anywhere selling them at a good price. White Trak 2’s would also be ok.

bowerbird
20th February 2015, 11:15 AM
They look wicked Hodge, can you give me details on where you had them done , how and cost etc? just wondering if you have had ride time on them to check if they chip etc?

Hodge
20th February 2015, 08:43 PM
They look wicked Hodge, can you give me details on where you had them done , how and cost etc? just wondering if you have had ride time on them to check if they chip etc?

Hi mate. That photo is one of few I've collected off the net and this forum. But those are not my wheels. I looked at getting a set powdercoated a while back, after seeing a set on a white GU like mine. But never got around to it. I got quoted $40 per corner at a local powder coating place.

Majestic
22nd February 2015, 07:24 PM
Has any one used the CSA Ranger steel rims? And if so are they any good??

I got a set of CSA Rangers (Black) 15x8 late last year. Haven't had a chance to go off road with them yet but so far I have no complaints. Been on quite a few long trips with them and a lot of country roads (I live out there) and they have done well.

jay see
16th January 2016, 06:12 AM
here are a couple of my GUIV

http://nissanpatrol.com.au/images/GU%20IV/IMG_0420-1.jpg

Rockcrawler Black 16x8 Neg 6 offset

http://nissanpatrol.com.au/images/GU%20IV/IMG_0437.jpg

http://nissanpatrol.com.au/images/GU%20IV/IMG_0436.jpg

No lift on car in these pics and 285/75/16s

http://nissanpatrol.com.au/images/GU%20IV/IMG_0435.jpg

http://nissanpatrol.com.au/images/GU%20IV/IMG_0433.jpg

No Lift

http://nissanpatrol.com.au/images/GU%20IV/IMG_0599.jpg

3" Lift and Working ;) (love this pic ;) )

http://nissanpatrol.com.au/images/GU%20IV/DSC_5056_2.jpg?t=1293705352

if you want any others Chris just yell out mate as my GUIV still sits on these rims today. Really like them.

Thread dig.

Are the flares different sizes, do they hang out more or less on a GU series 1, 2 & 3?
If so what offset would I need to achieve this on a GU 1. Thinking of running a 305/70/16.
What brand rims I should stay away from?

threedogs
16th January 2016, 12:08 PM
They look wicked Hodge, can you give me details on where you had them done , how and cost etc? just wondering if you have had ride time on them to check if they chip etc?

For best results you'll need to sand blast the rims then powder coat so as Hodge says about $40 a rim.
DO NOT powder coat the recess where the wheel nut sits , if you do it will crack off the powder coating and loosen your wheels
the result could be costly. Also think about clear coating them as well to further protect your investment.

@ JC these are 305s fitted to mine

jay see
16th January 2016, 01:09 PM
@ JC these are 305s fitted to mine

John are they on the 16x8 king rims?
If so, what offset are they.

threedogs
16th January 2016, 01:16 PM
I think they were King rims,, does minus 22 sound right been years since Ive had them

I have some 15x8 rims Ill powder coat soon charcoal metalic grey, thats if the off set is right
and they fit the back hubs especially that centre lip